mbalbritton
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- Joined
- Mar 22, 2005
- Location
- Greensboro, NC
Post edit inserted at the beginning, my tech turned into a story. Debated on moving to general chit chat, but it is tech worthy I think.
I've spoken to a few of you in DM's and posted several issues that have been popping up on my 2014 GMC 1500 - 5.3. And I much appreciate all the input. Issues from Codes being thrown on O2 sensors, Catalytic convertor codes, Fuel Pressure sensor codes. Long start issues, blah blah blah on everything. After much asking around and interwebz searches I decided to have an Induction Service preformed on my fuel system. I called around to a few places and did some youtubing to see what it was, was it worth it, how much it cost. I found two different service levels. One was spray the throttle body and pour in some fuel tank additive. Something I've done before with carbed engines and 3M product. This service ranged from $100-$150, and involved product you can buy off the shelf for less than half the cost. Then there was another service. It was with a product called BG GDI Induction service. it's a three part that adds an additional step. Hooking up to the High Pressure fuel pump and running a cleaner through the system as well. Cleaning the Injectors without removing them, I presume.
This was a far more expensive product than the others. It was quoted at $450 out the door. WTF? Why $300+ more? I called these guys 2-3 times trying to figure out why and what the difference was. I was looking at several thousand dollars of service to replace injectors, plugs, cats, sensors; so if this service was indeed better and could help my issues, I'm fine with $450. I was skeptical to say the least. and really wondering if the cheaper service would suffice. But these guys could have taken me for the several thousand in repairs, but they suggested this $450 service. A small family owned shop. He suggested it and said let's try it first, I really think it'll take care of most of your issues. Also mentioned that he personally bore scoped an engine intake and combustion chamber, then ran the treatment and bore scoped it again and saw big differences.
Fuck it, let's do it. In for a penny, in for a pound. My limbic system was telling me to go for it.
As I waited for the service while sitting in the odd waiting room that doubled as the Owners office and work station. I struck up a conversation with the owner about auto services, tech, cost of parts and services, etc. I mentioned that I chose his shop and service even though it was $300 more because I believed his service manager was right, or at least on to something. looking around his waiting room office and talking to him, I learn he is a Community guy, a church guy (while I'm not, I do factor this in the equation), Sherriff Grady Judd Kids community supporter, many things that point to being an upstanding honest business man. Anyway, after 20 min of taking up his time, he had to leave. I throw that in because somehow my bill dropped from $450 to $375 before taxes $410 after.
Back to the tech. mind you, I haven't been able to go more than a mile without my check engine light coming on after being cleared after trying various things. So, I jump in the truck and it freakin' wreaks of fuel/chemical some damn thing, WOW! So, drop the windows and go for a ride. first thing I notice is how quick it starts. KEWL! second thing is the check engine light is off. OK, let's see how long this lasts. Like I said, I've not made it a mile around the block previously. Truck seems peppier, that's nice. I continue to drive and drive. No check engine light as of yet. I'm not calling it fixed yet, but it's RATHER PROMISING!! I want to change my plugs now as he said sometimes the treatment can foul the plugs and I might as well since I have about 80K on them.
I'll post up after a hundred miles or so to see what the report looks like, but I'm skeptically optimistic at this point. Hope it helps someone else, or if anyone else has experience with this product or another, maybe you can share? Hell, if someone wants to say the $150 service would have done the same and I'm an idiot, go for it. Not gonna hurt my feelings. Just trying to help any of you out. If this takes care of my Catalytic Convertor codes, I'm happy to pay it. Those damn things were $2000 for the part alone. So If I can save you all some money/effort, cool.
I've spoken to a few of you in DM's and posted several issues that have been popping up on my 2014 GMC 1500 - 5.3. And I much appreciate all the input. Issues from Codes being thrown on O2 sensors, Catalytic convertor codes, Fuel Pressure sensor codes. Long start issues, blah blah blah on everything. After much asking around and interwebz searches I decided to have an Induction Service preformed on my fuel system. I called around to a few places and did some youtubing to see what it was, was it worth it, how much it cost. I found two different service levels. One was spray the throttle body and pour in some fuel tank additive. Something I've done before with carbed engines and 3M product. This service ranged from $100-$150, and involved product you can buy off the shelf for less than half the cost. Then there was another service. It was with a product called BG GDI Induction service. it's a three part that adds an additional step. Hooking up to the High Pressure fuel pump and running a cleaner through the system as well. Cleaning the Injectors without removing them, I presume.
This was a far more expensive product than the others. It was quoted at $450 out the door. WTF? Why $300+ more? I called these guys 2-3 times trying to figure out why and what the difference was. I was looking at several thousand dollars of service to replace injectors, plugs, cats, sensors; so if this service was indeed better and could help my issues, I'm fine with $450. I was skeptical to say the least. and really wondering if the cheaper service would suffice. But these guys could have taken me for the several thousand in repairs, but they suggested this $450 service. A small family owned shop. He suggested it and said let's try it first, I really think it'll take care of most of your issues. Also mentioned that he personally bore scoped an engine intake and combustion chamber, then ran the treatment and bore scoped it again and saw big differences.
Fuck it, let's do it. In for a penny, in for a pound. My limbic system was telling me to go for it.
As I waited for the service while sitting in the odd waiting room that doubled as the Owners office and work station. I struck up a conversation with the owner about auto services, tech, cost of parts and services, etc. I mentioned that I chose his shop and service even though it was $300 more because I believed his service manager was right, or at least on to something. looking around his waiting room office and talking to him, I learn he is a Community guy, a church guy (while I'm not, I do factor this in the equation), Sherriff Grady Judd Kids community supporter, many things that point to being an upstanding honest business man. Anyway, after 20 min of taking up his time, he had to leave. I throw that in because somehow my bill dropped from $450 to $375 before taxes $410 after.
Back to the tech. mind you, I haven't been able to go more than a mile without my check engine light coming on after being cleared after trying various things. So, I jump in the truck and it freakin' wreaks of fuel/chemical some damn thing, WOW! So, drop the windows and go for a ride. first thing I notice is how quick it starts. KEWL! second thing is the check engine light is off. OK, let's see how long this lasts. Like I said, I've not made it a mile around the block previously. Truck seems peppier, that's nice. I continue to drive and drive. No check engine light as of yet. I'm not calling it fixed yet, but it's RATHER PROMISING!! I want to change my plugs now as he said sometimes the treatment can foul the plugs and I might as well since I have about 80K on them.
I'll post up after a hundred miles or so to see what the report looks like, but I'm skeptically optimistic at this point. Hope it helps someone else, or if anyone else has experience with this product or another, maybe you can share? Hell, if someone wants to say the $150 service would have done the same and I'm an idiot, go for it. Not gonna hurt my feelings. Just trying to help any of you out. If this takes care of my Catalytic Convertor codes, I'm happy to pay it. Those damn things were $2000 for the part alone. So If I can save you all some money/effort, cool.
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