Graham, NC Manufacturing facilities

UTfball68

UTfball68

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I'm hoping folks in or around the Graham, NC area can help identify a company in that area. I've gotten some intriguing interview requests from a couple different head hunters for a company in Graham. The typical dance has been they won't tell me who/what the company is until I accept an interview. They say the company is established in manufacturing...dunno if that means if they're established in Graham though. The salary suggests it's a rather large company. I noticed that there were alot of high salary accounting/finance positions that recently opened up in Graham on the head hunter's website, and I assume they're all for the same company. When I see alot of new positions, I think 'who did they get rid of, and why'...or 'how new is this place'. I just want to know who/what I'm dealing with before I put any eggs in to a sinking ship or a company that'll flame out before it starts. Any and all info is appreciated.
 
UTfball68 said:
Would saying it's a $250MM company help anything???
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I know you are in accounting when the "MM" designator is thrown out :D My personal favorite is "M" for thousands haha. Hope the search goes well.
 
BigClay said:
I know you are in accounting when the "MM" designator is thrown out :D My personal favorite is "M" for thousands haha. Hope the search goes well.
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HAHA...yeah, 'MM' isn't something just anybody uses. And thanks. I've been outta school 3-4 years now, I've done the public accounting/auditing for a big 4...didn't like it. I did general accounting for the delhaize corporate office...didn't like it. I've done financial analysis for my for my current company...didn't really like it. I was a manufacturing supervisor for my current company...didn't like it. Where I really get my jollies is when it come to financial operations...I love being on the floor, reviewing drawings, analyzing inventory, business analysis, costing, etc. etc. I have that job now...but it's for the absolute worst boss I've ever had, has to stick her nose in everything, has to attach her name to any success I have, nit picks me to high hell. True story, our work files are locked by department, not individual...so on a whim my boss checks out a few of my files...I shit you not, I was reprimanded for a lack of detail in my own personal notes for a file that is summarized for others. And her most recent rant was telling me I wasn't getting the promotion she's been promising for a year, and I wouldn't be ready for the next level until she finished grooming me (you really have to know her and her ego and her 'look at me' perspective to understand how hysterical that is).

So I figure it's time for a change. I've really don't care where, I've been looking all over the country. I really keep going back to West Palm Beach, Savannah and Charleston...but the boost in salary doesn't really offset the higher cost of living.
 
I wouldn't waste my time going on a job interview unless they would tell me who it was with. I would flat out tell the head hunter exactly that.
 
drkelly said:
I wouldn't waste my time going on a job interview unless they would tell me who it was with. I would flat out tell the head hunter exactly that.
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I'm kinda new to the head hunter game and don't really know the rules...I've always had school recruiters as contacts. But I posted my resume a couple days ago on roberthalf, the ladders and indeed...and I'm absolutely getting flooded with legitimate interview requests (not just to be an insurance salesman). All I really care about out the gate is the name of the company and salary. I have no issues getting a salary, but to my understanding they with hold the company name so I can't just hop on the company's website, apply...and the agency loses out on their commission.
 
So set up interview and get name of company, do research and if you don't like it, back out on the interview. People do that all the time. Pissed the headhunters off, but you are in this for you, not them. My dad was a headhunter for years. He used to hate when people did that, but people do it all the time.
 
Blaze said:
So set up interview and get name of company, do research and if you don't like it, back out on the interview. People do that all the time. Pissed the headhunters off, but you are in this for you, not them. My dad was a headhunter for years. He used to hate when people did that, but people do it all the time.
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True...but that's not typically the way I do things. If I say I'm going to do something, I'll do it...I don't back out...regardless of what the circumstances are. and I don't feel like compromising that simply to get a company name. Not to mention, those kinds of things have a tendancy to come back and bite me in the ass...like when my current company finds out I'm looking for other jobs and decides to let me go because of a 'downturn in the economy'...that bridge I burned with the head hunter because I backed out...could cost me a future job.
 
No, when you call the headhunter up and be like "I did some research on the company and I really don't feel like that company is a good fit for me, but I do appreciate the offer and keep me posted of any future opportunities."

I'm not saying you flippantly put it off just to get the name without ever having the intent to interview. Or you could tell them straight up that you don't want them to waste their time setting up an interview if you don't like the company, so you really want to know something about the company first.

I have been working for 11 years now and am always on the lookout for something better. I have never had a headhunter refuse to give me the name of the company before promising to interview. Normally it is like "hey, we've got a company looking to hire an engineer, are you interested?" Why yes I am, tell me more. Then they say ok, it is such and such company, blah blah blah.

Guess I should have elaborated on my last post, rereading it I really mistyped what I was thinking. I have a sinus cold and I am loopy as hell. :lol:
 
Ok...gotcha. If that's the case, then yeah...I'm sure I can press them a little harder for a name, and I've told them it has to be the right/perfect job and feel has to be right, so coaxing a name for 'research' purposes shouldn't be that difficult either. Much appreciated man.
 
Anytime I've been contacted by a recruiter the last several years, the company they were finding people for had poor management. They knew the word was out & wanted to try & sell the position without saying who it was with. In this economy there ar plenty of qualified people wanting employment & not enough money to pay a middle man to fill needed slots. Unless its a temp agency.
 
I'm failing to see the issue here? It's an interview for a company in manufacturing. Whoopde doo. Just go and interview. You don't have anything to loose, it's not like going to an interview requires you to do much more than actually just interview.

Strive for more, take the risk (even though there is none other than time). You may be surprised!

I know I was. I was sought out by a head hunter for my current job. They wouldn't tell me the company nor the client we would be working for, just the industry in the area. I'm glad I did take it further as I have a wonderful job most of the time!

I just don't see the risk of going to the interview?
 
rockcity said:
I'm failing to see the issue here? It's an interview for a company in manufacturing. Whoopde doo. Just go and interview. You don't have anything to loose, it's not like going to an interview requires you to do much more than actually just interview.

Strive for more, take the risk (even though there is none other than time). You may be surprised!

I know I was. I was sought out by a head hunter for my current job. They wouldn't tell me the company nor the client we would be working for, just the industry in the area. I'm glad I did take it further as I have a wonderful job most of the time!

I just don't see the risk of going to the interview?
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I'm w/ Rob, dosn't seem like a big deal... but...

UTfball68 said:
Not to mention, those kinds of things have a tendancy to come back and bite me in the ass...like when my current company finds out I'm looking for other jobs and decides to let me go because of a 'downturn in the economy'...
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that seems like at least a little something to be worried about.
 
Some headhunters will give you the name of the company before submitting you, some will not. The higher up you get, the less willing they are able to give the name.

I did IT recruiting for a number of years. How we make our living is placing people in jobs, you wouldn't believe how many people we told the job is with XYZ Company, they tell us they are not interested then, and they go apply directly or go through another firm. All of our hard work to help open that opportunity for that person is thrown down the drain. We only get paid as an employee when we place somebody. I know several high level Directors that when they are headhunted, they are not even told the name of the company until a few minutes before the first phone interview with them because of the highly confident nature of the search.

Gmachine said:
Anytime I've been contacted by a recruiter the last several years, the company they were finding people for had poor management. They knew the word was out & wanted to try & sell the position without saying who it was with. In this economy there ar plenty of qualified people wanting employment & not enough money to pay a middle man to fill needed slots. Unless its a temp agency.
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You would be very surprised how piss poor many internal HR groups are at finding qualified people. Even though the job market may not seem great to you, in certain jobs it is very hard to find a qualified person. Most of the times a recruiter won't give you the name of the company is for privacy reasons and to protect their business so they can actual make money!
 
If a headhunter found you, then you must have your info out there somewhere that shows you are already "looking". Your current employer either already knows about your info out there or they are poor at finding the info. Either way, your info is out there somewhere that allows headhunters or potential future employers to find you. I don't see the risk here.

In addition, if the potential company and headhunter are this confidential with the client's name, its likely safe to say that they would be confidential with your info and not allow your current employer to find out. At least make this known to them. Unless its a small industry where everyone knows everyone, you are likely OK.
 
I've gotten a half dozen recruiters calling for a dozen or so job interviews...and they've all been relatively easy to break once I lay out my expectations. The recruiter for the Graham area said they'd send me the details.

And it's really not a big deal going to an interview, but I do have a great job...just a bad boss. So I feel I have the luxury of being super picky at this point, and if the company size isn't right, the salary isn't right, the location isn't right, the industry isn't right...or if I don't like the way the hiring manager talks...then I'll step away and won't waste anyone's time.
 
rockcity said:
If a headhunter found you, then you must have your info out there somewhere that shows you are already "looking". Your current employer either already knows about your info out there or they are poor at finding the info. Either way, your info is out there somewhere that allows headhunters or potential future employers to find you. I don't see the risk here.

In addition, if the potential company and headhunter are this confidential with the client's name, its likely safe to say that they would be confidential with your info and not allow your current employer to find out. At least make this known to them. Unless its a small industry where everyone knows everyone, you are likely OK.
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I have to disagree. If a headhunter found you, it doesn't mean you are "looking" at all. Headhunters ask tons of people in the business who do you know that has these skills?, search out on linkedin, search out company directories, call into companies and that have similar positions and target you. The best true headhunters find the people that aren't on the market, that is why they make so much money and our so vital to a companies recruiting process. Simple example would be would you consider somebody that just has a profile on LinkedIn "looking"?
 
Either way, your info is out there enough where someone can find you and seek you out. A profile on LinkedIn isn't "looking" but its there to be used for networking or for head hunters to find you. It could be perceived either way depending on how the info is used. Its somewhat of a generic resume. If I was an HR manager, I would say "yes", you are "looking" while you view it as networking. Its all perception and opinion.

So, to answer your qestion, Yes and No
 
DSM Turbos said:
I have to disagree. If a headhunter found you, it doesn't mean you are "looking" at all. Headhunters ask tons of people in the business who do you know that has these skills?, search out on linkedin, search out company directories, call into companies and that have similar positions and target you. The best true headhunters find the people that aren't on the market, that is why they make so much money and our so vital to a companies recruiting process. Simple example would be would you consider somebody that just has a profile on LinkedIn "looking"?
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And that's pretty much what I did...I wasn't looking per se, but wanted to see what could be caught. I updated my profiles for the first time since I graduated college...and the flood gates opened.
 
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