Thanks K45 they were to good of a deal to pass up, only problem with them is you can't really air down without beadlocks because the side wall is so thick. And that's exactly what I was thinking kamel, for $60 its worth a shot. I really wish those nwf doubler kits were cheaper, sounds like that would solve all my problems. But I'm just trying to get it on the trails this season and hopefully next year sometime I'll have the money saved to put a SD33T in this bad boy, but we all know how that goes.