Hobby Lobby Founder - May Close All Stores

Most people don't realize what Obamacare is going to do to employess.
ALL part-time college instructors that work for the NC College system will soon have their hours/pay cut in half.


Matt
 
I've already realized what it has done to me. Realized it real quick when I went from a nice little benefit described as 100% health care premium coverage at work to 70% coverage. Between that and the expiration of Bush tax cuts this year, I now take home less than I did last year.... and that's even WITH A RAISE!

Isn't CHANGE great!
 
mbalbritton said:
So sex for the sole purpose of enjoying each other and pleasure is a sin?
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Only in the Catholic Church and a few denominations that adhere to their specific laws, nowhere in the Bible does it say that it is a sin if you are married, in fact just the opposite, except in one instance where Onan was specifically instructed to procreate and he pulled out, thus defying God which led to his demise.
 
GCncsuHD said:
Only in the Catholic Church and a few denominations that adhere to their specific laws, nowhere in the Bible does it say that it is a sin if you are married, in fact just the opposite, except in one instance where Onan was specifically instructed to procreate and he pulled out, thus defying God which led to his demise.
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Does anyone else sense the irony of a rather large generator company sharing the same with a guy renowned for not being a "generator"?

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GCncsuHD said:
Only in the Catholic Church and a few denominations that adhere to their specific laws, nowhere in the Bible does it say that it is a sin if you are married, in fact just the opposite, except in one instance where Onan was specifically instructed to procreate and he pulled out, thus defying God which led to his demise.
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Like I said... 25% of the US population takes the other tack -- that Onan was punished for pulling out, not just for defying God.
 
Pretty sure I saw that letter over a year ago (or more) ....I wouldn't worry. Ride down main street in High Point, they just tore down a car dealership (caddy I think) to build a brand new Hobby Lobby. I feel the guy's pain, but looks like he's still banking plenty of $$$$$.
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
That's good. Because of his principles, he's going to force thousands to lose their jobs, and then blame it all on the president.

I can understand trying to fight for your beliefs, but at what cost?
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hahaha such a waste of a post....... Shawn is right you are an idiot. People like you that make Obama and our government look better everyday.......
 
mbalbritton said:
I've already realized what it has done to me. Realized it real quick when I went from a nice little benefit described as 100% health care premium coverage at work to 70% coverage. Between that and the expiration of Bush tax cuts this year, I now take home less than I did last year.... and that's even WITH A RAISE!

Isn't CHANGE great!
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I also have 100% coverage, at our quarterly meeting they insisted the company would eat the cost, and nothing on our end would change... Then our christmas bonus's came... Oh something changed... Went from a comfortable bonus to enough to buy grocerys and a tank of gas LOL.

Change is awesome... Right?
 
XJfreakHO said:
I also have 100% coverage, at our quarterly meeting they insisted the company would eat the cost, and nothing on our end would change... Then our christmas bonus's came... Oh something changed... Went from a comfortable bonus to enough to buy grocerys and a tank of gas LOL.

Change is awesome... Right?
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They could have given you the "Jam of the Month" for your bonus.
 
It wasn't unexpected, we knew they would get us somehow. Just didn't expect it to hit the Christmas bonus.

Then again, I still think its funny we have a "holiday party" cuz people complained about calling it a Christmas party, but we get a "Christmas bonus" and there hasn't been a complaint yet regarding the name. Haha
 
- Faith based organizations such as churches are exempt from this mandate. Courts have ruled that his business is a secular for profit enterprise. Allowing him to forgo coverage would cripple the mandate and lead to a flood of "me toos" from unscrupulous business people who don't care about the contraception issue and just want to save a buck.

- An amendment called "The Blunt Amendment" was proposed that would have allowed businesses led by people with opposing religious views to opt out. It was voted down in the Senate in March of 2012.

- Hobby Lobby has already lost in court and the US Supreme court has denied their appeal. This is not an "Obama" thing. All three branches of our government have decided that Hobby Lobby is bound by this mandate.

- There is nothing saying he has to offer insurance at all. He can always drop coverage and give his employees a commensurate raise to buy their own plan if he doesn't like the system.

- Part of living in a democracy and making huge profits in a democracy is that you are bound by the rules of that democracy. Nobody is asking him or anyone in his family to personally take any form of contraceptive. The tax dollars from his profits are already funding programs that he wouldn't support. Planned Parenthood is a perfect example of this. Our government doesn't have any duty to bow to his religious views any more than they have a duty to bow to Islamic, Satanic, or Atheistic views. Remember, when you let him choose to exempt his business from our laws you are voting to allow everyone else's religious views to exempt them from the law as well. It's a two way street.
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
That's good. Because of his principles, he's going to force thousands to lose their jobs, and then blame it all on the president.

I can understand trying to fight for your beliefs, but at what cost?
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At all cost. If all we worried about was what it would cost us and just did whatever was easiest, we'd still be Neanderthals, obviously some still are.
 
NC_IslandRunner said:
At all cost. If all we worried about was what it would cost us and just did whatever was easiest, we'd still be Neanderthals, obviously some still are.
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Exactly.... if you are willing to compromise on your beliefs, then they aren't really beliefs - they are just guidelines.

This is exactly why I am so upset with the Boy Scouts. For their entire existence, they have stood firm on the topic of homosexuals. I was a Boy Scout and came from a Scouting family. I feel as though due to outside pressure, they have violated their own Scout Laws. First of all, a Scout is Reverent - which means he is Reverent towards God. God's Word, in both Old and New Testament is VERY clear on the subject of homosexuality. If you don't believe me, check it for yourself. Secondly, a Scout is Brave. Which means he has the courage to stand for what he thinks is right even if others laugh at him or threaten him.
 
ok, I want to get a special kind of piercing. It is on my genitals and requires a medical doctor to perform the procedure. Since it is a medical procedure my heath insurance has to pay for it, doesn't it? I mean, I could just go without getting the piercing (or not show my junk to your wife/girlfriend and not need the piercing) and no one would have to pay anything, but since it is a medical procedure a doctor has to be paid. Since you are providing my heath care you have to pay for it, I don't care if you say that it is against your beliefs, not necessary, and I could pay for it myself if I really want it. You have to spend your money the way I dictate, because that is what free heath care means. I get any medical treatment I want for free to me, not to you. (Oh, and that splinter in your eye needs to be taken care of too.)

No one is saying that they can't murder the egg. Some people do not want to be forced to pay for murdering the egg. It isn't about the killing of the egg, it's who is responsible for the killing of the egg. If I am forced to pay for the murder, then I am the one causing the murder. I feel that if they want to murder the egg they should do it themselves, or not get into the position of having to choose between murdering the egg or raising a kid. (Rape or incest are special cases where you may be able to kill the egg/sperm before fertilization if acknowledged in time)

This is referring to the cases where people get drunk and f&%k, then worry about it the next day or week. That is people being stupid, and then expecting their employer to fix it for them. They should practice personal responsibility, or be responsible for the outcome themselves.
 
D'Mann said:
ok, I want to get a special kind of piercing. It is on my genitals and requires a medical doctor to perform the procedure. Since it is a medical procedure my heath insurance has to pay for it, doesn't it? I mean, I could just go without getting the piercing (or not show my junk to your wife/girlfriend and not need the piercing) and no one would have to pay anything, but since it is a medical procedure a doctor has to be paid. Since you are providing my heath care you have to pay for it, I don't care if you say that it is against your beliefs, not necessary, and I could pay for it myself if I really want it. You have to spend your money the way I dictate, because that is what free heath care means. I get any medical treatment I want for free to me, not to you. (Oh, and that splinter in your eye needs to be taken care of too.)

No one is saying that they can't murder the egg. Some people do not want to be forced to pay for murdering the egg. It isn't about the killing of the egg, it's who is responsible for the killing of the egg. If I am forced to pay for the murder, then I am the one causing the murder. I feel that if they want to murder the egg they should do it themselves, or not get into the position of having to choose between murdering the egg or raising a kid. (Rape or incest are special cases where you may be able to kill the egg/sperm before fertilization if acknowledged in time)

This is referring to the cases where people get drunk and f&%k, then worry about it the next day or week. That is people being stupid, and then expecting their employer to fix it for them. They should practice personal responsibility, or be responsible for the outcome themselves.
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An egg is unfertilized, so not the right term here. Fetus, zygote, blastocyst, embryo, etc would all fit. Eggs get "killed" every 28 days or so...
 
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