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mbalbritton said:
That's amazing! Almost makes it looks like us whiteys introduced the Native Americans in the 1860's :D Didn't realize that we were here first!

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I noticed that too, LOL
 
benXJ said:
we have decades to get ready.
so much room for efficiency in every trade, job, career path
not to mention we have millions (just in the USA) that are straight leeches, just that fact alone means that we can get by just fine with millions less people
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Funny how Japan and Korea have also had decades, and yet are up shits creek today for the same reason.
 
well of course its not black and white.....its all connected.
however, Japan and Korea have different gov't styles and economic ways of life
The USA, 'we' can plan for it, and work the plan (AI is coming, we cut down on handouts, the gov't can incentivize certain higher ed programs based on need....vs. blanket loans for anyone/any degree, enact new savings plans vs just the 401k, expand Roths, slowly shrink the military....tons of ways)
or
take the unsustainable easy way out and just import bodies to grow the economic base and kick the can to the next generations....where resources, land, housing, and open space gets more and more rare until it breaks...
we have taken the easy way out
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
I was watching a clip from Mike Rowe that stated shortages in trades over 700k from just the different groups reaching out to his school/program.
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What he is saying is 100% correct. I was planning to go to Virginia Tech for engineering. In 10th grade I took "Industrial Occupation Exploration" as an elective. The idea was to spend a few weeks in all the "shop" classes... auto, electrical, carpentry, masonry, drafting and machining. That lead me to become a machinist, with the idea that I could/would get an engineering degree afterwards. That never happened... lol.
 
benXJ said:
well of course its not black and white.....its all connected.
however, Japan and Korea have different gov't styles and economic ways of life
The USA, 'we' can plan for it, and work the plan (AI is coming, we cut down on handouts, the gov't can incentivize certain higher ed programs based on need....vs. blanket loans for anyone/any degree, enact new savings plans vs just the 401k, expand Roths, slowly shrink the military....tons of ways)
or
take the unsustainable easy way out and just import bodies to grow the economic base and kick the can to the next generations....where resources, land, housing, and open space gets more and more rare until it breaks...
we have taken the easy way out
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Your forgetting one fact. Decades is exactly what is required to grow healthy mature adults that want those sector jobs. Current generations have lost touch and dont care about those jobs. First you got to change points of view and principles. Not one measurable percent of the current population is just gonna pick up tools and go to work much less get educated in using them. If you think its a simple policy change or changes your in for a rude awakening.

edit: I couldn't stand to over look one comment.

AI? just what yhe Hell is AI gonna do for sweat equity job? Not a computer made can do 99 percent of what needs to be accomplished in the physical world.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
Your forgetting one fact. Decades is exactly what is required to grow healthy mature adults that want those sector jobs. Current generations have lost touch and dont care about those jobs. First you got to change points of view and principles. Not one measurable percent of the current population is just gonna pick up tools and go to work much less get educated in using them. If you think its a simple policy change or changes your in for a rude awakening.

edit: I couldn't stand to over look one comment.

AI? just what yhe Hell is AI gonna do for sweat equity job? Not a computer made can do 99 percent of what needs to be accomplished in the physical world.
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I see what @benXJ is saying about AI. He means that there won't be as many office type jobs available in the coming years, due to AI. That leaves trades and manufacturing to fill the job gap. But, that can't happen overnight, like you said.
 
It isn't just programming jobs that are at risk. I could see a day WAY in the future when robots build a whole neighborhood of houses.
 
I was just reading this morning that Netflix is catching heat because they used AI for entire scenes in an Argentine sci-fi movie they made. That would basically take out the entire VFX industry right there.

Our boss at work told us if we could figure out how to get AI to do our job he would pay our salary for ten years :laughing:
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
Your forgetting one fact. Decades is exactly what is required to grow healthy mature adults that want those sector jobs. Current generations have lost touch and dont care about those jobs. First you got to change points of view and principles. Not one measurable percent of the current population is just gonna pick up tools and go to work much less get educated in using them. If you think its a simple policy change or changes your in for a rude awakening.

edit: I couldn't stand to over look one comment.

AI? just what yhe Hell is AI gonna do for sweat equity job? Not a computer made can do 99 percent of what needs to be accomplished in the physical world.
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there will always be blue and white collar jobs in our current economic engine

many people do look ahead and try to find the jobs that pay well. if finance type jobs dry up, then many won't go into that field, for example.

Say plumbing pays $100k a year entry level but a 'business' degree pays $50k starting? You'll see some supply/demand career decisions happening there. Kids go to the oil fields now for that big paycheck....and that is sucky work. Myabe we don't need 200k insurance agents and let 'AI' handle most of the work? Stock managers? Schedulers? video editors? On and on.

Sure, the current generation has decided what its going to be, but 20 years is a long time.....a crap ton can happen/change in 20 years with as fast as tech is progressing

I explicitly stated 'its not black and white' and then you say 'not a simple policy change'........i explicitly stated its not 1 simple thing/change. I agree.

Even went as far as mentioning 7 things that could help transition into not needing 400MM in the USA and still being super competitive

What if the USA handed out 'forgivable' loans for certain sectors? That would entice many. (as the 10 year forgivable civil loan program has)
What if we slimmed down the handouts so it would really hurt to not work.....some might pick up a shovel or hammer?
What if we figured out a way to get the 1mm+ leaches in prison now to be productive? that is 1MM less people we need to import......that then have 4MM kids

Just takes guts
 
benXJ said:
there will always be blue and white collar jobs in our current economic engine

many people do look ahead and try to find the jobs that pay well. if finance type jobs dry up, then many won't go into that field, for example.

Say plumbing pays $100k a year entry level but a 'business' degree pays $50k starting? You'll see some supply/demand career decisions happening there. Kids go to the oil fields now for that big paycheck....and that is sucky work. Myabe we don't need 200k insurance agents and let 'AI' handle most of the work? Stock managers? Schedulers? video editors? On and on.

Sure, the current generation has decided what its going to be, but 20 years is a long time.....a crap ton can happen/change in 20 years with as fast as tech is progressing

I explicitly stated 'its not black and white' and then you say 'not a simple policy change'........i explicitly stated its not 1 simple thing/change. I agree.

Even went as far as mentioning 7 things that could help transition into not needing 400MM in the USA and still being super competitive

What if the USA handed out 'forgivable' loans for certain sectors? That would entice many. (as the 10 year forgivable civil loan program has)
What if we slimmed down the handouts so it would really hurt to not work.....some might pick up a shovel or hammer?
What if we figured out a way to get the 1mm+ leaches in prison now to be productive? that is 1MM less people we need to import......that then have 4MM kids

Just takes guts
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This is a better explanation.

On the note of prisons. Each should be ran as a free contract labor within the state. They do jobs we currently hire out that are labor intensive or require little to no technical skill. The worse the crime the more manual the labor. Lesser crimes get the opportunity to do more technical work as training and rehabilitation.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
This is a better explanation.

On the note of prisons. Each should be ran as a free contract labor within the state. They do jobs we currently hire out that are labor intensive or require little to no technical skill. The worse the crime the more manual the labor. Lesser crimes get the opportunity to do more technical work as training and rehabilitation.
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Put them out picking cucumbers or picking up sweet potatoes. Those fields are wide open and hard to run through. Easy to pick off wannabe escapees.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
Your forgetting one fact. Decades is exactly what is required to grow healthy mature adults that want those sector jobs. Current generations have lost touch and dont care about those jobs. First you got to change points of view and principles. Not one measurable percent of the current population is just gonna pick up tools and go to work much less get educated in using them. If you think its a simple policy change or changes your in for a rude awakening.

edit: I couldn't stand to over look one comment.

AI? just what yhe Hell is AI gonna do for sweat equity job? Not a computer made can do 99 percent of what needs to be accomplished in the physical world.
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If this is what a teacher teaches her own kids at home, we are doomed… common sense and free thought are not even being encouraged, just delusions and me too movements
 
Houses in my neighborhood are sitting for sale too.
 
Same thing here. We're in a pretty sold working middle class neighborhood just outside of town (so lower taxes w/ all the convenience). One of our neighbors has had a pretty decent home for sale for months.
IMO they're askin gtoo much but thats been the case everywhere
 
Loganwayne said:
Most people haven't realized the house they bought for 500k is now nose diving in value
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In contrast - house 3 doors down sold last year for 630k
Listed last week for 700k

We laughed.

Sold sign hung 2 days later.

Hasn’t closed yet so don’t know for what…but I might be listing soon 🤣
 
Ron said:
Hasn’t closed yet so don’t know for what…but I might be listing soon 🤣
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problem is ya still have to live somewhere
 
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