How to move/ and or build big ass trusses

Loganwayne

Loganwayne

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long story short we are redoing a roof truss system on a church trusses are going to be a little over 70ft long and 12-14 high from peak to eave height. church is on a decently curvy road but nothing crazy, except a narrow two lane road bridge where we would have to make a 90 degree corner, or a traffic circle that is landscaped. basically have narrowed it down to two options.
1. bring them in as two pieces and assemble on site. problems with this is making a jig where we can make get to both sides at the same time to attach all the plates.
2. bring in as one piece possibly with a removable peak to cut the height down on a expandable trailer, possibly with wheels on the trailer that can steer.

Any other ideas that anyone can come up with i'll listen to i have been scratching my head since Monday trying to figure out different ideas.
 
rockcity said:
Let the truss company figure it out. Order it FOB job site and let the experts do what they do. :)
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Truss company basically said it is impossible to deliver in one piece and we would be responsible for reassembly on site with their supervision. I don't want that liability I want them to deliver on site

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Sounds like your only choice is to assemble on site if the truss company won't deliver in one piece.

A 70' truss plus the truck and trailer is stupid long and likely won't get a permit for. That, or the truss company knows the permit hassle and has a good way to make it in 2 pieces for easy site assemble.

Honestly, I don't see the issue to assembling it on site with their supervision. They will make it where it can be done reasonably easy.
 
rockcity said:
Sounds like your only choice is to assemble on site if the truss company won't deliver in one piece.

A 70' truss plus the truck and trailer is stupid long and likely won't get a permit for. That, or the truss company knows the permit hassle and has a good way to make it in 2 pieces for easy site assemble.

Honestly, I don't see the issue to assembling it on site with their supervision. They will make it where it can be done reasonably easy.
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We have come up with a jig to put them together on site but we can only install the plate connections on one side at a time. Concerned about flipping the truss with only one side plated causing problems. It may not but I'd prefer to do both sides at one time.

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Call in a chopper.

Flipping the truss will cause issues and would probably require a crane (stupid expensive). Anything not requiring flipping would be an OSHA nightmare.

I'd find another truss company for a second opinion. Dont provide any extra info so they don't know you are shopping them. A truss company worth their salt would do what it takes to get the product to you. You are the paying customer. I'd think the extra expenses from truss company doing what it takes to get the product to you offsets any liability for worker safety or fawking it up.
 
frankenyoter said:
Call in a chopper.

Flipping the truss will cause issues and would probably require a crane (stupid expensive). Anything not requiring flipping would be an OSHA nightmare.

I'd find another truss company for a second opinion. Dont provide any extra info so they don't know you are shopping them. A truss company worth their salt would do what it takes to get the product to you. You are the paying customer. I'd think the extra expenses from truss company doing what it takes to get the product to you offsets any liability for worker safety or fawking it up.
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Already gonna have a crane on site to set them. If all the trusses were getting set at the same time a chopper might be viable but taking off and replacing in sections.

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frankenyoter said:
. I'd think the extra expenses from truss company doing what it takes to get the product to you offsets any liability for worker safety or fawking it up.
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This is where I'm at I don't want the liability of flipping trusses. I think truss company should be responsible for complete build of trussed ready to set but that's not up to me

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Loganwayne said:
This is where I'm at I don't want the liability of flipping trusses. I think truss company should be responsible for complete build of trussed ready to set but that's not up to me

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If I was you I would not be involved any other way.
 
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Loganwayne said:
This is where I'm at I don't want the liability of flipping trusses. I think truss company should be responsible for complete build of trussed ready to set but that's not up to me

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If this is your concern hire a competent builder. It blows my mind watching people take on a task that they are not comfortable with, fuck it up, then hire someone to come back later and try to bandage the problem. As Andy says "pay the man"
 
GotWood said:
If this is your concern hire a competent builder. It blows my mind watching people take on a task that they are not comfortable with, fuck it up, then hire someone to come back later and try to bandage the problem. As Andy says "pay the man"
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It is call the man, not pay the man. But I guess you would be doing that too, lol.

 
Loganwayne said:
This is where I'm at I don't want the liability of flipping trusses. I think truss company should be responsible for complete build of trussed ready to set but that's not up to me

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They are to the capacity that they can given the limitations.

I mean, you are asking them to deliver a fully built truss that, from what it sounds like, can't be delivered in one piece like you expect but you don't want to put it together on the job site even when the truss company can build it to be put together and they are even providing supervision?

Sounds like you need to figure out how to put it together on site. It's a truss. It can't be that complicated to splice it together.


Get a drawing from the truss company and a rigging plan showing site assembly. Follow their instructions and there shouldn't be any issues. They can provide technical input in flipping it with only one side plated. They build them all the time. Seek and follow the recommendations of the experts at the truss company.
 
rockcity said:
They are to the capacity that they can given the limitations.

I mean, you are asking them to deliver a fully built truss that, from what it sounds like, can't be delivered in one piece like you expect but you don't want to put it together on the job site even when the truss company can build it to be put together and they are even providing supervision?

Sounds like you need to figure out how to put it together on site. It's a truss. It can't be that complicated to splice it together.


Get a drawing from the truss company and a rigging plan showing site assembly. Follow their instructions and there shouldn't be any issues. They can provide technical input in flipping it with only one side plated. They build them all the time. Seek and follow the recommendations of the experts at the truss company.
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Talked with them this morning they are sure it will be fine to flip with only one side plated but are also talking to their engineers to double check to make sure it won't cause any problems down the road. The owners are just extremely concerned with how the trussed are handled due to the old ones failing and pushing the walls two inches out.

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rockcity said:
They are to the capacity that they can given the limitations.

I mean, you are asking them to deliver a fully built truss that, from what it sounds like, can't be delivered in one piece like you expect but you don't want to put it together on the job site even when the truss company can build it to be put together and they are even providing supervision?

Sounds like you need to figure out how to put it together on site. It's a truss. It can't be that complicated to splice it together.


Get a drawing from the truss company and a rigging plan showing site assembly. Follow their instructions and there shouldn't be any issues. They can provide technical input in flipping it with only one side plated. They build them all the time. Seek and follow the recommendations of the experts at the truss company.
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Also after talking with them they didn't realize there is another way to get to.the job site and are also willing to look at that road and the option of making the peaks removable to transport them to the job site.

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Loganwayne said:
Yes that is what they want to do but it will take some time to put them together and flip them and trying to minimize the cost of crane on the job

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Use a telehandler forklift. It's only 14' tall. Surely there is a forklift on site?
 
Yes but we were told that we had to use a spreader bar to flip or move truss, crane is going to be on site to set so might as well use it to flip them.

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Our crane rentals run about $1200/day at most. More like $800-$900. On a large scale project such as that I'd say they're going to have to suck it up and pay out. No sense cutting corners.

Better yet why not hire a bunch of Amish dudes to show you how it's done.
 
Ok. Then plate it and flip it per the manufacturer's directions and with their supervision and be done. Sounds like there is no other choice unless you can find a way to deliver the 70' long truss in one piece.
 
We shipped a lot of trusses with the peaks as a separate element that got added in the field. So long as the truss trailer could get to the site with whatever length was required, they would modify the width (height) to match whatever they could get away with for the delivery route.
 
shawn said:
We shipped a lot of trusses with the peaks as a separate element that got added in the field. So long as the truss trailer could get to the site with whatever length was required, they would modify the width (height) to match whatever they could get away with for the delivery route.
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this is what i asked him about this morning. i think this is our best option so we will see what they come up with
 
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