Hummer Wheels and Spacers?

ponykilr

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I am considering changing my wheels to hummer wheels (already running Hummer MTRs). I like the look and this would allow me to change tires easily at home. It also would let me have one spare between the truck and the M1101 trailer. I would need spacers, I am dubious of spacers. If I buy steel 3" wheel spacers would they be ok? I guess stress wise they are no different that wheel offset on bearings and as long as they are high quality and the nuts stay tight they work ok.... what do you guys think? Remember this truck is not a rock crawler and 3000 lbs is about the max trailer I will tow with it and that is less than a 400 lb tongue weight.

This is on my F350 BTW

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Why not just recenter the wheels? There are a dozen companies that make flat centers and a few that make quality pressed centers. You'll end up spending more, but then you won't have to drive around knowing that you've got 3" spacers under there, waiting to cause problems. Plus the option to have "custom" wheels for not a whole lot of $$$ has to be appealing.

Do the recenter option now, then down the road add a rock ring, etc. and really dress that thing up.
 
I would just find 3 more wheels like I already have for the trailer and spare before I did that.
The appeal is the look and already having Hummer wheels on the trailer.
 
Spacers versus recentering the wheels makes no difference as far as forces on the hub. Only disadvantage of spacers is 2 sets of lugs. I say go for it. If I redo the axles in my TJ at some point, I plan to run H1 wheels with dually hubs or wheel spacers.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Spacers versus recentering the wheels makes no difference as far as forces on the hub. Only disadvantage of spacers is 2 sets of lugs. I say go for it. If I redo the axles in my TJ at some point, I plan to run H1 wheels with dually hubs or wheel spacers.
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X2. I recently had this setup on my truck. I figured, I could always sell the spacers and recenter later if I choose, but cant remove the center and go to spacers. Plus I figure that the factory was able to produce a truer wheel center than I could weld one in.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Spacers versus recentering the wheels makes no difference as far as forces on the hub. Only disadvantage of spacers is 2 sets of lugs. I say go for it. If I redo the axles in my TJ at some point, I plan to run H1 wheels with dually hubs or wheel spacers.
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You just need to break back out the 5x4.5-8x6.5 spacers
 
Changing tires "easily" is a matter of perspective :D It's a bit of a chore and you definitely won't want to do it very often! It's easier and wayyyy faster to change a tire with spoon bars and a bead hammer than bolting up 8 or 12 bolt H1 rims! I say go for it though. Only downfall is, they're a heavy tire/wheel combo. What beadlock inserts would you run? It defeats the purpose if you don't keep them bead locked.
 
If you're not concerned with weight, run a set of the 2 piece rubber runflats.
 
I run balance beads so runflats and the grease won't work.

Unless you mean cut down.

I remember seeing some pvc inserts somewhere for around $80 but now cant seem to find them.
 
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powerstrokin04 said:
I do have nib 2" steel 8 lug wheel spacers for sale
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That would put me at 5" BS, Need to measure but most folks who do this get 3" spacers. My tires are at least 2" outside of fender now with 3.5" BS so it would be good to get them back inside the fender.
 
You are in the same boat I am. I think end result is to use the HMMWV rims if you are OK with the downsides like lengthy tire changes (which don't really occur often) and added weight. I personally would rather run DRW hubs than spacers if you can find them. You may even be able to track someone down looking to do a swap with you.
 
That would do nothing for the rear unless I am misunderstanding. Isn't the actual axle (rear) what is wider on a dually?
 
Skinny said:
You are in the same boat I am. I think end result is to use the HMMWV rims if you are OK with the downsides like lengthy tire changes (which don't really occur often) and added weight. I personally would rather run DRW hubs than spacers if you can find them. You may even be able to track someone down looking to do a swap with you.
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a DRW hubs is basically a cast steel spacer. It bolts to the SRW hub/rotor and has new studs pressed in. Also they are closer to 4-5" spacer.
 
ponykilr said:
I run balance beads so runflats and the grease won't work.

Unless you mean cut down.

I remember seeing some pvc inserts somewhere for around $80 but now cant seem to find them.
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What grease are you referring to? From what little ive looked around, TWF has about the best deal on inserts.
 
To run runflats, there has to be grease in the tire (like I just cleaned out of mine) unless I have read it wrong. If they are cut down to just be bead locks then no grease needed.
 
We have two sets. One with mag run flats and one with rubber.
No grease anywhere.

I like having the rubber runflats in mine. It keeps from pinching the sidewall of the tire when aired down. Acts like a bump stop for the tire.

Only complaint against the mag ones, is my dad hit a steel fence post with one, and it was early impossible to straighten it all back out.

I have heard about the mag ones catching on fire when ran flat for extended time.
 
The grease is in stock HMMV wheels/tires so that if the run flat is actually used due to loss of air pressure, the run flat insert will not ruin the tire.
The inside of the tire and the insert will be running different speeds if the tire is flat, and the insert will be sliding inside the tire. I have read the rubber inserts can actually start a fire with a flat tire and no grease.

http://www.bluehummer.com/rulu.html
 
The DRW are nice because 1) they are an OEM design 2) probably can be obtained for free if you find someone wanting to install a set of dually axles in pretty much anything 3) no state inspection issues with spacers as some guys are picky with them 4) less risk of the spacer loosening up

Either way it doesn't really matter because the end result is the same but I would much rather have the DRW hubs than spacers.
 
ponykilr said:
The grease is in stock HMMV wheels/tires so that if the run flat is actually used due to loss of air pressure, the run flat insert will not ruin the tire.
The inside of the tire and the insert will be running different speeds if the tire is flat, and the insert will be sliding inside the tire. I have read the rubber inserts can actually start a fire with a flat tire and no grease.

http://www.bluehummer.com/rulu.html
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How likely are you to run on a runflat for any length of time or speed? I like them so if I had a tire blowout, Im not going to the rim. I can see where the military would want the grease, as they plan to run wideopen across the desert getting shot at.

I also prefer to run water/antifreeze/glycol as a balancer vs BBs.
 
I am not arguing for or against the grease, just stating what the manufacturer recommends.

How much volume wise do you put in the tires PW?
 
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