Im ready to dive in to this lift..need some advice..

Macdaddy4738 said:
Im thinking now of just keeping the 31's on it..
Any reccomendations for new 31" tires? Places to buy (both internet and Brick/Mortar shops)
As it stands, I dont think I can afford to buy the needed equipment to allow 33's, and spending 200-300 dollars for an extra inch of tire just sounds like a waste to me..
I will be replacing the wheels though, probably going to Black Cragars...
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I ran 32s and 15x8 wheels (3.75 backspacing I believe)on mine for a while with stock shocks, 2" spacers and a 1" BL/MM. As was mentioned, you just need to keep the sway bar attached.

But.....
I've got some newer stock springs and shocks from an Unlimited Rubi that might get you a little more height. And I think you live near me if you're off Grace Chapel Rd somewhere. Shoot me a PM and let me know.
 
bradreedjeeper said:
dude don't just settle on 31's because these guys say you can't run them! check this out, it my help you a little. http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821604 I'm running 3in. susp. and 1in. body and can fit 36's, even better now that I have tube fenders.
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Well damn, so it IS possible then? That looks quite badass. And the RFI really doesnt look too bad, so Im assuming articulation on it isnt too horrid? What front fenders is he running on that? If all it requires is those fenders, and minor cutting out back, then im down for that.

Im trying to avoid a body lift right now because Ive heard of small problems that are annoying to get rid of with em. Is this true?

And at 4 inches of lift, im looking at all sorts of driveline issues as well correct?

Im getting extremly confused, because I hear of people getting rubbing problems with 31's stock. Not only do I NOT have rubbing problems, I could probably fit 32's under it with no real problems. Is it possible I already have a spacer lift and just dont realize it?

Keep in mind this is my first vehicle where I am doing any modifcations to it (and im hoping to do alot of it myself. Already installed a speaker bar, Ipod hookups and other various crap myself..)
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
Im trying to avoid a body lift right now because Ive heard of small problems that are annoying to get rid of with em. Is this true?
And at 4 inches of lift, im looking at all sorts of driveline issues as well correct?
Im getting extremly confused, because I hear of people getting rubbing problems with 31's stock. Not only do I NOT have rubbing problems, I could probably fit 32's under it with no real problems. Is it possible I already have a spacer lift and just dont realize it?
Keep in mind this is my first vehicle where I am doing any modifcations to it (and im hoping to do alot of it myself. Already installed a speaker bar, Ipod hookups and other various crap myself..)
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No problems with my 1" body lift. Several benefits though. At 4"+ of lift you would need to start looking into an SYE/CV shaft. I'll PM you my #, bring it by the house and we'll figure out what it's got.
 
GSW, Im gonna snap some pics of body mounts, and the spring/shocks tonight. I wont be able to make it to your place anytime soon :rolleyes: too damn busy.

BUT I do believe im going to try the 33's on the 2 inch BB, possibly with a 1"BL and 1"MML.
 
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/559819774hIhLRc

pictures as promised. Hope you can tell whats going on down there.

Probably more rust then there should be down there on a DD, but she spent alot of time down at the beach and all the salt water wasnt that great (being that it used to be some girls car, meaning she never washed it...)

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Gonna go with the RE 2" BB, the JKS 1" Body and 1" Motor lifts. New gears all around as well (the axles need new seals anyways, so mine as well). New wheels and Tires as well, 33x12.50r15's.

Should fit them no problem
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
Well damn, so it IS possible then? That looks quite badass. And the RFI really doesnt look too bad, so Im assuming articulation on it isnt too horrid? What front fenders is he running on that? If all it requires is those fenders, and minor cutting out back, then im down for that.

Im trying to avoid a body lift right now because Ive heard of small problems that are annoying to get rid of with em. Is this true?

And at 4 inches of lift, im looking at all sorts of driveline issues as well correct?

Im getting extremly confused, because I hear of people getting rubbing problems with 31's stock. Not only do I NOT have rubbing problems, I could probably fit 32's under it with no real problems. Is it possible I already have a spacer lift and just dont realize it?

Keep in mind this is my first vehicle where I am doing any modifcations to it (and im hoping to do alot of it myself. Already installed a speaker bar, Ipod hookups and other various crap myself..)
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I think he is running PSC but you could raise your factory fenders and cut the rear and it would not cost much at all. I'm about to try my luck at raiseing the fenders, I just got Poison spider tube fenders and I'm going to do the highline fender mod. I should be able to run 36 or 37's, but I may just drop it back down 35's and run rubi springs so I can haul my quad and be stable.
 
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$700 to regear isn't unreasonable at all, but there is a good bit of movement available with tire price and lift cost/labor.
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no kidding I had some looney toons quote me 600 dollars in labor to change out my REAR gears. If you want to put in a bb do it yourself. If you cant handle a bb then sell the jeep and buy a scooter.
 
Rob said:
Mac, let me get this right, your wanting 2" of lift to run 33" tires on a 98 TJ? Are you planning on disconnecting the front sway bar? If not it will probably fit, if so, your going to destroy your front fenders. I came close to mine running a 2" budget lift and 31's. Also depends on who's 33's. I was running swampers which were closer to 33" then most of the other brands.

You will also need to re-gear to 4.88's to make those 33's usable IMO.

My advice is stick with the 31's for now with a 2" budget boost from Teraflex, save your pennies and later down the road do a 4.5" RE long arm kit and an SYE to run 33's on.
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id have to agree totally....man the 31s would be good for now until u decide to go bigger on the lift...33s and a 2" bb man would probably be alright if all you did was street driving...although i do have a buddy with no lift and 33s on his tj and it rides fine...cant remember the gears though will let u know if u want...prolly 4.88s and ill post pics if anyone would like...he just does abslolutely no trail riding...he pretty much just did that so when hes being stupid and driving home drunk and runs across fallen trees or gets stuck in a ditch he wont always have to call me or someone else to get him out....(not my idea of a good choice either so dont bitch at me for it either i know its stupid to drive drunk...ive had plenty of friends hurt and seen other people killed because of it so im not advocating it in any way)...but seriously he can jump right over those trees with those tires...its hilarious to watch...but just my 2 cents...enough typing...
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
32's I can do I believe...
Any huge difference in looks from the 31 to the 32?
What about 31 to the 33? If I were to put on 32's rather then 33's would it aesthetically be that noticeable?[/QUOTE

(i know my third post in like 10 minutes on this thread but im bored and no work today and waiting on parts)...you shouldnt be that concerned about looks lol...honestly i am a little bit but still having a functional dd and a trail capable jeep doesnt always come with great looks on the side...actually jeeps look better than most vehicles lifted but back to the point...32's dont look as small as the 31's but width has a lot more effect on looks whenever your talkin about a 1" difference in height...ill put a pic of my friends xj with 4.5" of lift and 31s then with his 32s on the same lift later and show you...defenite difference with the 32s
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lol lots or replies there man.

I do wheel it, but I havent done anything besides little stuff because Im only on 31's.

just thought of something here..

If I went with the 2 inch BB, but replaced the springs with the ones GSW offered me...that'd give me an extra 1-1.5 inch's...

Suppose I also add the BL and MML in there, that'd give me more than enough correct?

http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepbudget.html

175 for the 2" BB and a 1" BL there..

If I added in those springs GSW talked about, would that give drive train issues?
 
jeepinmatt said:
Yeah, 32's are perfect, a little cheaper, won't rob you of as much power, and are barely different from 33's offroad.
The most fun and best bang-for-your-buck my jeep ever was occurred when I had 2" spacer, 32's, rocker protection, and a lockrite in the rear. It would go anywhere I needed to go, and most places I wanted to go.
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Not that anyone cares anymore...

But Ive decided to do the 2" BB, 32's, a Pair of JKS Discos, maybe some rocker protection if I can fit it in.

Saving 200 on the tires, and another 200 on the BL and MML will allow me more space within my budget.
 
Sounds like an ideal plan to me.
 
Just to add to the long line of opinions. Prior to the money pit I call my Jeep I used to run 31 MTR's everything else stock and it performed awsome. I began adding skids to protect the vitals and sheet metal, then I added a suspension lift. That said, if you don't plan on keeping the Jeep for a while then go cheap. Body lifts over one inch, in my opinion, are UGLY but they serve a purpose, BIG Tires. The goal of installing larger tires is to increase ground clearance under the axles, looks are a nice plus. Breakover angles can be increased as another poster has already mentioned by a belly up skid. If it were me I would go with a BB of your choice, a 1" Daystar body lift, since it also replaces the OE body mounts and 33's. BTW, a 33in tire only gains 1in of ground clearance over 31's(depending on mfr). Tire width also plays a factor in rubbing but with the set up I describe you should be able to run 33x1250x15 on 3.75 backspace rims w/out problems. But If you want I will be glad to sell you my old superlift 4" lift. I used it w/35's. PM me if you want to discuss it.
It's all about making choices and learning from them.
Good Luck
 
Im going to do the 2" BB and 32" tires for now.

Then when I get more cash (Read Financial Aid Refund check :lol:) im going to put the 1" BL and a 1" MML on it (sometime around Fall)

Then next summer I will swap the 32's for 33's.
 
Bumping this up..

Found a nice RE 2.25" Lift kit for 233$$

Includes the nicer Twin Tube Shocks rather then the regular BB shocks, which means I wont have to upgrade them later on like I was going to do orginally.

Considering they have the standard 2" kit for 219, this is a steal!
 
RE doesn't have a 2.25" lift according to them. Their Budget Boosts (2") are $233 retail but we normally sell them at $200 with the monotubes.......just making sure you are getting what you expect.



Macdaddy4738 said:
Bumping this up..
Found a nice RE 2.25" Lift kit for 233$$
Includes the nicer Twin Tube Shocks rather then the regular BB shocks, which means I wont have to upgrade them later on like I was going to do orginally.
Considering they have the standard 2" kit for 219, this is a steal!
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the kit is their own 2.25" spacers, with the Twin Tube Shocks.

You sell em for 200 though? With the Rubicon Express Monotube Gas Shocks?
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
the kit is their own 2.25" spacers, with the Twin Tube Shocks.
You sell em for 200 though? With the Rubicon Express Monotube Gas Shocks?
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Just give Andy a call at his shop. If he can get you the kit you want with monotubes, go for it. The monotubes ride a whole sight better than the twin tubes or DT3000s.
 
GSW said:
Just give Andy a call at his shop. If he can get you the kit you want with monotubes, go for it. The monotubes ride a whole sight better than the twin tubes or DT3000s.
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Well thats the thing...

I did call him (actually sent an email, he called me)

I was quoted 250 for the kit, and I dont believe that was the Monotubes.
 
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