International Box Truck

mbalbritton

mbalbritton

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My company is looking at a 26' Box Truck. International Diesel with an Allison Automatic.

My Bosses are under the assumtoin that I'm a mechanic...... HAHAHAHAHA! Well, I guess compared them I'm a damn ASE certified Diesel Master Mechanic.

anywhoooo.

They want me to take a look it before they buy it. What sort of things should I be looking at in particular to Int'l engines and Allison Trans? It's a few years old (not sure what year, but I'll find out) and apparently is of a vintage that's more sought after because it has or doesn't have some damn thing on it that the newer do that's a PITA. I'll see if I can find out what that's all about. Note this is ACCORDING TO THE SALES GUY!
 
Sounds like pre emission maybe?
If it has a vt 365 (highly likely at that size) you know that motor as a 6.0 power stroke.

Respond accordingly.
 
Yeah, probably pre-emission.

Do the commercial motors have all the emissions shit that gave Ford so much trouble with the 6.0?
 
US EPA 2007 required DPF (diesel particulate filters) on exhaust of heavy truck diesel engines, that could be what that guy was referring too. These would probably be model year 2008 trucks.
You definitely want to stay away from EPA 2010 Internationals. The regulations basically required DEF (diesel exhaust fluid, i.e. urea injected into exhaust) but Navistar thought they could meet it with a heavy EGR. That blew up in their face, now they're in a world of hurt.

I think it was US 2000 when EGR started being used in heavy trucks.
 
2002 International 4300 Durastar
180,000 miles
DT 466 engine - 215 HP
Allison Automatic Transmission
GVWR 24,999
Power Steering, Hydraulic Brakes & Air Conditioned 26’ Box with hydraulic lift gate
 
Your gonna want older bthan 07, or newer than 2012. And pretty much stay away from any Navistar/ international diesel from this century. Find something with a Cat or an older C series Cummins


Just my $0.02
 
DT466e is pretty bullet proof. The 2002's used the same style injectors as the 7.3's in the fords of that era if you are familiar with those. 180K is about the time you may start loosing injectors 1 by 1 (injectors can be changed easily on the '02). Check the block above the oil pan, under turbo to see how bad the oil cooler assembly is leaking (also easy to replace, but a common leak point). Not much else on the motor to really worry about if it looks clean and decent.

If possible, check it out on a cold morning and ask them not to start it before you get there. Fire it up (it should start right up even if not block heated) and it should run smooth and on all cylinders. If it is skipping or puffing or lacks power before it is warmed up it has injector(s) on the way out.

If taken care of, you should get over 500k easy out of the motor before time for an in-frame rebuild (even those are nice and simple on those trucks), the allison behind it should hold up fine as well, just check the fluid and judge by smell (burnt or not).
 
Test drove it today.Did a cold start up. Fired right up ran smooth, drove nice, good acceleration for a box truck. Only thing I can see about it is there are a couple of boards right along the passenger sidewall cargo bay that need to be replaced.

DAMN CLEAN truck! new tires/tread all the way around. Only funky thing to get used to is that there is no Park on the gear selector. That was weird! Didn't notice it when I first got in and it had been left in Reverse so the starter ground the flex plate/flywheel.

but it looks like I get a new toy this afternoon. and we're going to have it Wrapped in vinyl graphics for added horse power! :driver:
 
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