KOH Winning set-up

EvilEric

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Dont know anything about that type of desert/rock racing. What drivetrain/suspension/wheel/tire set-up is typical of top 5 finish? Being serious here, I know it takes a ton of money or corporate sponsorship. I want tech specs!
 
aluminum beadlocks (racelines or similar)
decent axles (spider 9s or some other expensive D60/9" hybrid)
multiple rate coilovers with remote reservoirs with triple bypass shocks
KRTB tires or I think the Kevlar Goodyears work well out west
LS3 motor or similar. Something with some power to get up to speed in the desert
tons of cooling for the motor
 
rockcity said:
aluminum beadlocks (racelines or similar)
decent axles (spider 9s or some other expensive D60/9" hybrid)
multiple rate coilovers with remote reservoirs with triple bypass shocks
KRTB tires or I think the Kevlar Goodyears work well out west
LS3 motor or similar. Something with some power to get up to speed in the desert
tons of cooling for the motor
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tire size?
 
rockcity said:
aluminum beadlocks (racelines or similar)
decent axles (spider 9s or some other expensive D60/9" hybrid)
multiple rate coilovers with remote reservoirs with triple bypass shocks
KRTB tires or I think the Kevlar Goodyears work well out west
LS3 motor or similar. Something with some power to get up to speed in the desert
tons of cooling for the motor
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Properly preped and tuned "car" (for some it's nothing to drop 10K between races)
Properly preped and tuned crew
Properly preped and tuned driver(Most of the contenders do lots of prerunning)
 
rockmafia said:
Properly preped and tuned "car" (for some it's nothing to drop 10K between races)
Properly preped and tuned crew
Properly preped and tuned driver(Most of the contenders do lots of prerunning)
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agreed!


I think the KRTB is only availabe in a 39"? Maybe someone with some better know can say for sure
 
I think I have read that 37's won the race. It seems several of the DNF racers could have been prevented by having a proven trail rig rather than a dedicated race rig.
 
GubNi said:
I think I have read that 37's won the race. It seems several of the DNF racers could have been prevented by having a proven trail rig rather than a dedicated race rig.
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42" MTR Kevlar won 2011
 
That guy in the Marlin F-toy hauls ass.

But in order to win? IFS. Plus all the stuff mentioned above.
 
Couple of a-arms, coil carrier, bumps, bypasses, and a diff and some half shafts.

I mean, you can make a car with a solid front fast... but you can make an IFS car faster. Then you just need a driver that can one-shot most of the major obstacles in that car in order to be competitive.

I shouldn't have said that it takes IFS to win... but I think it definitely helps.
 
Shawn said:
Then you just need a driver that can one-shot most of the major obstacles in that car in order to be competitive.
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this is what really matters.
 
Good parts, good execution, good plan, DRIVER COMPOSURE! All the parts, money and prep in the world can be destroyed by a driver in an instant.

Luck?? You might call it that but I've raced next to some of the best and they continually find the podium. Thats not luck IMO.
 
And yes there is a 37" KRT/B and KRT/J. Both Lovell rigs race on them.

FYI, the 39" Krawler is the only repeat winner I believe. Shannon in 09 and Loren in 10.
 
Own this vehicle.

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I've heard $100k builds you a budget KOH racer. I've also heard of rigs well over the $200k mark.

Exaggerated or not, it is not for the light of wallet. There is an immeasurable difference between building a rig that can "complete" the race vs. building one that can actually "compete" in the race.

Check out Pirate4x4, there are threads that have most of the data for each rig from past KOH races. There are also dozens of build threads that show the KOH buggies being built from the ground up.
 
crawlin85cj said:
Luck?? You might call it that but I've raced next to some of the best and they continually find the podium. Thats not luck IMO.
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I know the best drivers continue to rise to the top at series races, and its more than luck.
I only meant that it takes ''luck'' to win koh. You gotta admit, the best of the best also need a little lady luck to win KOH..I mean there are hundreds of things that can take you out of the win...takes a little luck to dodge them all.
 
Seat time and experience.

Having your rig ready to go 6 months before the race (rather than having it finished 6 hours before loading it up) and running it is the best thing. Having experience, knowing its limitations. If I was ever going to run KOH, I would be out there a few months ahead of time, practicing. Knowing the terrain and knowing the obstacles, well, remember what G.I. Joe said, "Knowing is half the battle". I don't know a darn thing about west coast wheeling, so instead of applying what I know here, to out there, I would just go out there and find out beforehand.

REALLY good tires.

A lightweight rig so axles will last longer. Seems like the heavier rigs with heavy wheels and high output engines didn't fare too well in the axle department. Difficult to win when your axle is in shambles.

REALLY good pit crew. There was a video of Shannon Campbell with a flat. His crew was ready for him. Just craned (YES A CRANE) his rig up, pulled off the old tire, put on the new one. No time at all, just did it. REALLY helps.
 
to the OP, I see what your after but you're not going to find it here and possibly not other places. it's a race and not everyone's going to divulge their trade secrets on the internet. If I remember correctly, I saw maybe 5 pictures of Shannon Campbell's winning set up before race day and that included zero details. These tricks and set ups are like your favorite fishing hole or grandma's chicken and dumplin recipe. you just don't go around telling people about it if you want to keep it a secret or in this case continue to win.

you might try pirate for build threads. I think Will Carter could probably give you a good idea on here too.
 
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