Lots of interesting news today

watts consumed per computational unit completed, there's still nothing anywhere close to the efficiency of the human brain.
Rather than making people dumber by relying on the AI and mass info storage of the artificial data centers, it would be more cost effective AND environmentally friendly AND better for society to spend that $$ on education and making people smarter and better at math and let humans do what they do well.

Then you can create mass biological computational factories, Matrix style :laughing: but also get intelligent leadership out of it too.

But in all seriousness, there have been major efforts underway for years to grow complete live, biological tissue neural networks - AKA brain in a jar - for solving this very problem.
 
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Semi relevant - somebody copied ChatGPT word for word for thsi article
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Shreddinlettuce said:
Not to mention it will all run on nuclear or fossil fuels because wind and solar would never be reliable or powerful enough. The liquid salt idea that billionaires though would be the next best thing just went the way of the dingo. Not saying computers won’t get more efficient, but the circuits are already at a microscopic level and there’s only soo small you can go before material limits are met. The revolutions as sold yet have been in materials. Part of the reason spruce pine mines for quartz are practically shuttered
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Many of the DC sites have some type of on-location power generation, but it is often for short term needs. Others have built solar and wind farms to try and offset some of the power load, but to that point, none of the DCs today are remotely as large as the ones to come. The large players are talking that there could be 10 - 2.5+ Gigawatt facilities built in the US over the next 5-10yrs. The amount of fiber being placed across the US to connect these sites is pretty crazy, at the moment. Microsoft just announced that their first AI site in GA will use a closed looped cooling tower to run the facility. Not sure how well that will work, but I do know they have been continually reducing the water requirements they say they will need at the 5 DC locations planned for Catawba County. I suspect that those mega sites will end up build their own power generation too, if needed. Money isnt really a concern to these companies. They are purchasing land in places that have secure and available power, but if that becomes a hurdle, they will figure out how to generate it.
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
Many of the DC sites have some type of on-location power generation, but it is often for short term needs. Others have built solar and wind farms to try and offset some of the power load, but to that point, none of the DCs today are remotely as large as the ones to come. The large players are talking that there could be 10 - 2.5+ Gigawatt facilities built in the US over the next 5-10yrs. The amount of fiber being placed across the US to connect these sites is pretty crazy, at the moment. Microsoft just announced that their first AI site in GA will use a closed looped cooling tower to run the facility. Not sure how well that will work, but I do know they have been continually reducing the water requirements they say they will need at the 5 DC locations planned for Catawba County. I suspect that those mega sites will end up build their own power generation too, if needed. Money isnt really a concern to these companies. They are purchasing land in places that have secure and available power, but if that becomes a hurdle, they will figure out how to generate it.
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It's not uncommon for these places to have 20-30 3MW generators for emergency power. A big part of what we do is the platforms around those things. And you're right, money is no object to these people.
 
NCJeeplover said:
I saw something the other day about using old turbines to power data centers.

www.datacenterdynamics.com

ProEnergy repurposes jet engines to power data centers amid gas turbine shortages - report

Retrofits old CF6-80C2 jet engines into 48MW power generators
www.datacenterdynamics.com www.datacenterdynamics.com
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When I was working for United airlines they had their own onsite generation plant at their big ass heavy maintenance facility in San Fran that was run off a few older jet engines, and CARB shut it down through excessive permitting red tape (I know). It would be interesting to see the current emissions permitting requirements for running a turbine to power a facility long term.

Edit: article right below that one on the same page:
www.datacenterdynamics.com

xAI facing lawsuit over use of gas turbines at Memphis supercomputer

"We will not allow xAI to get away with this"
www.datacenterdynamics.com www.datacenterdynamics.com
 
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justjeepin86 said:
This is something I've never heard about. Seems pretty shitty, if true.

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Honestly this doesnt surprise me. there are to many movies out there that have this as the main story. Call me crazy but i think most movies arent just pulled from someones ass, they all have a little bit of truth.

also i thought there was an article about russian citizens could sign up and go shot pirates off the african coast not to long ago.
 
I would say the doing this and saving every key stroke is a crazy bad idea. The ability to get that is just too easy in this day and age. We have become way too dependent on computers and data but in contrast to that it is easier then ever to disappear from the grid.
 
justjeepin86 said:
This is something I've never heard about. Seems pretty shitty, if true.

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Honestly, back in the early 90’s they were doing it to themselves for free with some of the worst human/ethinic cleansing seen in modern history. (Not excusing you posted article just adding to the fact that the region is comfortable with disposable life).
 
thebrotherinlaw said:
www.theblaze.com

Trump admin drops hammer on SNAP scammers after finding 186K dead people collecting benefits | Blaze Media

USDA will require beneficiaries to reapply.
www.theblaze.com www.theblaze.com
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I would see a lot of should be hospice patients with family surrounding them that are on drugs, as soon as a nursing home is brought up they demand to be discharged home despite not adequately caring for the person and inevitably they all live in that family members house and use their social security as well as their own gov assistance. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of those people buried gramma in the backyard to keep collecting. This number is probably an underestimate, but due to estates not being processed after a death and the family still filing taxes on bejalf of the deceased
 
we can't keep having such a broad, ever expanding social safety net AND 100% free will that allows so many to make bad/poor/dumb descisons and then get the benefits of said safety net.

and on top of that, letting in so many undeduated, unskilled, quesitonable background people that many of them ono doubt afford themselves of some of that safety net too

or is that the entire plan? (i beleive it is)
 
benXJ said:
we can't keep having such a broad, ever expanding social safety net AND 100% free will that allows so many to make bad/poor/dumb descisons and then get the benefits of said safety net.

and on top of that, letting in so many undeduated, unskilled, quesitonable background people that many of them ono doubt afford themselves of some of that safety net too

or is that the entire plan? (i beleive it is)
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You gotta keep out all the undeduated people, fn ai and its autocowrongct
 
OMG. 0.4% fraud rate. We should definitely spend millions upending everything and burn it all down!
 
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