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OnlyOneDR said:
As one working for a large manufacturer of finished goods I can attest that Sony is probably not wrong here. And to agree with them a little bit that is all voluntary spend. Groceries or life sustaining medications? Sure, sounds (and looks) bad. Discretionary spending? That is entirely different.
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IMO whether the good is "mandatory" or discretionary is completely irrelevant. That just makes you feel less bad about the transaction.
To their credit its a question of how the company handled the tariff fee. If the company 100% absorbed the cost themselves and did not pass it to the customer then there's no issue. If they did pas the cost to consumers then it's fair the consumer is refunded for the cost.

The problem here is that Sony didn't explicitly say that. Note they never explicitly state they did not bake in tariff costs to their prices, They're just claiming that they raised their price to meet market demand and sidestepped the question. They very well could have jacked the price for tariffs, saw no decline in sales, and just left it there because, well, capitolism.
 
RatLabGuy said:
IMO whether the good is "mandatory" or discretionary is completely irrelevant. That just makes you feel less bad about the transaction.
To their credit its a question of how the company handled the tariff fee. If the company 100% absorbed the cost themselves and did not pass it to the customer then there's no issue. If they did pas the cost to consumers then it's fair the consumer is refunded for the cost.

The problem here is that Sony didn't explicitly say that. Note they never explicitly state they did not bake in tariff costs to their prices, They're just claiming that they raised their price to meet market demand and sidestepped the question. They very well could have jacked the price for tariffs, saw no decline in sales, and just left it there because, well, capitolism.
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I would imagine it was some of both. Im sure they ate it for a while like most companies did and then had to start passing it on. I couldnt imagine the accounting headache of trying to figure out exactly how much was absorbed vs passed on, and when that changeover fully happned.
 
awheelterd said:
I would imagine it was some of both. Im sure they ate it for a while like most companies did and then had to start passing it on. I couldnt imagine the accounting headache of trying to figure out exactly how much was absorbed vs passed on, and when that changeover fully happned.
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I agree.
Nor the logistical nightmare of refunds when you're not the actual seller.
I've heard of some companies openly saying, "Look we can't refund everyone, but instead we're lowering prices to match for a bit to pass it alaong."
 
RatLabGuy said:
I agree.
Nor the logistical nightmare of refunds when you're not the actual seller.
I've heard of some companies openly saying, "Look we can't refund everyone, but instead we're lowering prices to match for a bit to pass it alaong."
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And honestly, I dont fault Sony here. They sell luxury goods. There was nothing compelling the gamer dorks to buy at the inflated prices. They also likely calculated that the gamers might be grumpy about having overpaid, but know they won't abandon their product.
 
jeepinmatt said:
I mean yes but also F govco for creating the situation. But it's not just Sony. It's literally every company that was importing things and charged a tariff surcharge and isn't going to pay it back.
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100% but I do feel compelled to say this was a very specific part of GovCo. Lets focus rage at the right people.
 
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