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does anyone know how evpensive a short block from toyota is! It is 4,500.00, plus those are a son of a bitch to work on! I am master ase, expert toyota tech, and I agree you spent too much on that damn thing, but if you put a jasper motor in it it wont last long at all, every one of them I have seen has been either leaking coolant from the head bolts, or internally because of reman blocks. the block is worthless used, even the other manufactureres of rebuilt 3vz dont know what the hell they are doing. so if you like your runner you did the right thing getting it fixed at toyota, but you got it in the tailpipe on price for labor. also fipg is form in place gasket, and if it took two tubes on that thing you had an idiot work on it. just take it back and make a fuss, if they are like my dealership, you'll have a quiet engine in no time.:popcorn:
 
thats a shit ton of cash for a 3.slow......ditch it and get a 3.4
 
Part it out and move on or sell it. You are way past diminishing returns unless you luve the thing... As suggested, 3.4 is a quantum leap beyond the 3VZ POS. However, 3.4 is a SOB to work on as well but more reliable. I can not figure out why Toyota can't get their head gasket design figured out while other JAP car makers have? They do use good materials in their parts but I think the head bolts, torque to yield, is what has bitten them in the a$$. Why would you want a tension bolt to yield? I have used Engine Builders 190ksi head bolts and have had no 3VZ gaskets to fail, knock on wood. So far, experience indicates only Toyota recommended that the 3VZ head bolts be torqued in two stages followed by two 90 degree grunts? Yield in a bolt equals a reduction in clamping force which equals a loose head gasket IMHO.

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The motors did have head gasket issues.... but shit there are plenty around with 200k. I have seen more with spun rod bearing, b/c the crank from the factory were to soft, they have since updated the crank. the problem with jasper motors and other rebuilds is they are grinding the same soft crank and putting it back together, usually shottly, the last one i did had a hole in the block and the heat tags were still shiny and behind the timing cover written on the head said charlie, i wanted to tell charlie that he fooed up.

torque to yield is a pain in the ass but alot of other manufacturers do it as well. i have never understood it why not just give a torque spec.

As for there cost. they are expensive, one rod is like $100 from toyota, cost. they are expensive to rebuild, and they did offer a lifetime warranty i have never heard of anyone offering a lifetime warranty on a motor that is unheard of, i would have charged you more for that kind of warranty.
 
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