Mudsling @ The Flats Offroad Park May 30th

jaybird1ton

jaybird1ton

The Flats Offroad Park
Joined
Sep 11, 2008
Location
Marion
We will be having our first mudsling of the year on May 30th as part of our cancer benefit ride @ The Flats Offroad Park in Marion N.C.The mudsling will start @ 4:30 on Saturday. We do have a timing system in place and a scoreboard now! The pit will be 250' but we did take the jumps out.
The park is located on I-40 @ exit 85. You can also use Google maps and search The Flats Marion NC for directions.
We hope that you will come and join us for some mud racing this year. Please share this with all your friends and lets get this out there. Questions call 828-442-5498 or 828-442-7932. More details to come!

Races will be every 3rd weekend and every race will be posted as an event on The Flats Offroad Park's face ...book page with info and rules.
Points system will be in place & final race will be for the championship!
Park will open @ 9am on race day.
Drivers meeting at 3:30. Race starts @ 4:00
Concessions will be served @ all races.

2015 Mudsling Race Schedule
May 30th
June 20th (tentative date) May be changed to 27th.Will update ASAP!!
July 11th
August 1st
August 22nd
September 12th
October 3rd
October 24th
There will be 100% payouts to all classes! PLUS bonus money!

Rules:

4/6 CYL Street Class $15

Must be stock motor.
33" tires and under. No cut tires.
Lift kit is allowed. 4.5" max.
One bolt on is allowed. No power adders.
Factory adder is allowed.
Must pass NC inspection
Must have a tow hook.

V8 Street Class $15

Must be stock motor.
33" tires and under. No cut tires.
Lift kit is allowed. 4.5" max.
One bolt on is allowed. No power adders.
Factory adder is allowed.
Must pass NC inspection
Must have a tow hook.

4 CYL & 6 CYL Hot Street $20

4 CYL and 6 CYL hot street class will use the same rules as V8 hot street class.

V8 Hot Street Class $20

Must be stock appearing and could pass NC inspection.
No gutting and must have dash, heater box, and all glass.
Small truck V8 conversions not allowed.
Body swaps will be allowed but must be done on full size frames. Tires must line up with fender wells. Can trim fenders for tire clearance.
Lift kits allowed. Must have mufflers. Any DOT tire allowed. No cut tires.
No power adders. Diesels with factory turbo ok.
Can use three of these bolt-ons... carb, intake, headers or ignition.
No motor over 460 cubic inches.

MODIFIED STREET $25

Must be stock appearing and could pass NC inspection.
No gutting & must have dash, heater box and all glass.
small truck v8 conversions not allowed.
Body swaps allowed but must be done on full size frames . Tires must line up with fender wells. Can
trim fenders for tire clearance.
Lift kits allowed. Any DOT tire allowed. No cut tires.
Must have mufflers.
No power adders. Diesels with factory turbo is ok.
Must run one carb and any bolt ons are allowed.
Must be a fully bodied truck. Fenders, hood, cab, and bed.

SMALL BLOCK MODIFIED $30

Any body type allowed. No fiberglass bodies. Fiberglass hood is allowed.
Bodies can be moved, narrowed or gutted. Small truck V8 swap is allowed.
401 cubic inches and down, bore & stroke can be changed.
Aftermarket blocks allowed but no aluminum blocks.
3 or 4 links w/ traction bars & sliders allowed. Coil overs allowed.
Single carb allowed. No fuel injection or dominator carbs.
Trans brake or 2 step not allowed.
Any transmission or transfer case or chain drive allowed.
Must use factory type frame. No tube frames.
Must have brakes on 4 wheels.
Any vehicle without a top must have a minimum 4 point roll bar.
Must have 4 point harness & 2lb. extinguisher.
No power adders. If equipped w/ nitrous, bottle must be removed & solenoid unplugged.
Must have an easy access kill switch inside the cab that can be reached by driver.

BIG BLOCK MODIFIED $30

Any size engine allowed. After market blocks allowed. No aluminum blocks.
No rear engine. Driver must sit behind engine.
Any transmission, t case or chain drive allowed. Trans brake allowed.
Minimum 4 point roll cage & 4 point racing harness.
No sheet metal intake, only 1 dominator & no fuel injection
Must use factory type frame or rectangle frame. No round tube frame.
Any body is allowed with gutting/narrowing or fiberglass.
3 OR 4 links allowed. Sliders, traction bars & coil overs are allowed.
Must have a fuel cell and any fuel is allowed.
Must have F/R driveshaft loops.
Must have brakes.
Battery or fuel lines not allowed in cab.
Must have trans shield & flex plate shield.
Maximum wheelbase is 135"
No power adders. If equipped w/ nitrous, bottle must be removed and solenoid unplugged.
Must have a easy access kill switch inside the cab & 2lb. extinguisher.

PRO MOD CLASS $40

Any size engine allowed. Aluminum blocks allowed.
No rear engines. Driver must sit behind engine.
Any suspension allowed.
Stock or rectangle tubes allowed. No round tube frames.
Any body or fiberglass body allowed.
Must use D.O.T. tires. 54" max. No paddle tires. Cut tires allowed.
Single or dual carbs allowed. No fuel injection. Sheet metal intakes allowed.
No power adders allowed.
If equipped for nitrous, bottle must be removed and solenoid must be unplugged
Must have front/rear driveshaft loops & tranny & flex plate shield.
Any transmission and transfer case or chain drive is allowed.
Trans brake is allowed & any fuel is allowed.
Must have racing seats w/5 point harness and 2lb extinguisher.
Must have kill switch at rear of vehicle & easy access kill switch inside of cab.
No batteries or fuel lines inside of cab.
Must have brakes & 6 point minimum roll cage.

MEGA TRUCK CLASS
Must run a 2.5 ton style axles
V tread tires & DOT tires allowed. Any size
Roll cage is required. Fire extinguisher required.
Any motor allowed w/ any power adder.
Easy access kill switch is required in cab and outside cab.
Fire suit is recommended.

OPEN CLASS $30
Anything is allowed in this class.
Must have hard top or roll cage.
No batteries or fuel lines allowed in cab.
Must have brakes.
Must have 4 point harness or factory seatbelt.
This class could be split depending on horsepower.
Example 300hp buggy will not run against 800hp mud truck.
Rules are subject to change for this class and will be discussed on race day w/ racers and tech guy.
 
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aaahhhhhh i hope i get to go!!!! this is my kind of race right here. something my heep can actually take a beating on and something these tires could really benefit me in. hope to make it. will know for sure as we get closer to time.
 
hey according to your rule chart, cause of my "cut tires" would i have to be with the all modified class or what?? i couldn't really figure out what class i would qualify in
 
Hello. I just wanted to share a strong opinion that was supported by many folks that i encountered about this: I'm not a complainer by far and honestly could care less if this ever gets changed but if the Mud Bog people ever wanted my business...they would have to consider their classification rules and i think the "inspectors" could pay a little more attention to what people have: I was forced to be in "Open Class" just because of these so called cut tires but seriously i think this is way over exaggerated. I mean, i saw cherokees and trucks running 37 and below boggers and my tires are no different than a bogger and a lot even agreed that boggers are little more aggresive than mine so because of this, i was forced to be in open class (which left me alone to race myself) or be put with 4/6 Cyl class but if by chance had won, no recognition/prize would be issued. Again, I really don't care except for the fact that in the future i would love to enter and have no issues paying the fee to enter but i would like to be able to be up against vehicles in my class. I think the judges/technicians/inspector need to really look at a XJ on 35" Boggers and My XJ on my 35" Thornbirds cut and realize we would be dead even match minus driver skill and luck of the run. This is just food for thought, just an idea and small reccomendation that would allow me to enter a cool mud race in the future. Before i had backed out of the race, pretty much EVERYONE who found out the class my little heep was qualified/forced to run in, they all agreed was not right and they are the ones who motivated me to back out. Sorry and hope i don't upset anyone, i'm not upset, ranting, or throwing a fit by no means....this is just an idea that would not only affect me but i'm sure others in the future.
(i am only referring to regular grooved/regrooved/siped tires like most guys are running....the "Real Deal Cut Paddle Cut Type tires" that i understand) I figured Feedback is Always welcome by most businesses so this is just my first and only cause the actual Flats Off Road Park Rocks!!!!
 
Pinkston said:
Are your tires cut? Do the rules say no cut tires? It is that easy.
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yes the rules say no cut tires but what i'm saying is there is a big difference between "cut cut paddle type cut tires" and just someone regrooving them to sharpen the lugs like i did but when the outcome of someone's grooved tires are the same as boggers or hair less...then what's the fuss all about is what i'm saying. I just said that it should be more better inspected in relation to other tires rather than just making a rule that cut tires is cut tires and be that. that doesn't say anything since there is a wide range of cut tires since that's what they are called but just cause someone has cut tires doesn't make them better at all.
IE: a cut/grooved Dunlop Radial MT would be NOTHING compared to a TSL/IROK/Bogger so that's all i'm saying is just look at the tires and make a judgement according to other tires being ran. Personally, it's like telling a guy with Boggers that he can't run against guys with regular MTs or ATs which we all know is so unfair but it happens and is allowed so this is the point I'm making. But hey, i'm not starting anything cause again i don't care if it gets changed but just thought i would mention this to make it fair for someone in my shoes in the future.
 
StretchASU said:
Cut tires are cut tires. The principle is the same. To take a tire, any tire, and alter the tread in hopes of it performing better.
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I strongly disagree with you and that would actually be supported by many at the race but again, that's the case than that's the case but to say that a cut/regrooved cheapo MT is the same as cut/regrooved bogger/tsl is nonsense and cannot even be compared and if put up in a race together, the MT guy wouldn't stand a chance. (Personally what would be fair is to ask/have the drivers of that person's similar class make the decision on the person's "cut tires" and let them be the judge and I bet you a Benjamin they wouldn't care running their boggers against some cut thornbirds, especially if your a good sport which most guys i was talking to were very polite and kind and in much agreement.
On the other hand, who won the modified 4/6Cyl class anyways??
 
I don't have a dog in this, & don't intend to, but I understand what John is saying, & agree with him. Rules may be rules, but even Nascar has "gray" areas, & it's up to the inspectors/officials, to make the call
 
John Fuller said:
Personally what would be fair is to ask/have the drivers of that person's similar class make the decision on the person's "cut tires" and let them be the judge
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:lol: Yeah thats called the Kumbaya hugs n kisses mud racing league of extraordinary fairness class.

Once again, the PRINCIPLE is the same. Altering a tire in hopes it performs better. If I showed up with my 38" TSL's that are cut to the cords, even if I followed the factory pattern, I would expect to be put into the Open Class if the rule book said so. The tire has been cut.
 
StretchASU said:
Yeah thats called the Kumbaya hugs n kisses mud racing league of extraordinary fairness class.
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you can call it whatever you wanna call it but i know sincere good people when i meet one and a lot of the folks i was talking with were in agreement and again, they are the ones who got me to back out because they thought it was pretty rediculous for me to be in a class with "any and all" modified whatever rigs (even though nobody signed up). putting a little heep against Buggys and others alike if they ran i can assure you the crowd would've have laughed at my happy little butt, not laughing with me and lets admit, in the end it would be biggest waste of 40 bucks to just show up looking stupid.
StretchASU said:
If I showed up with my 38" TSL's that are cut to the cords, even if I followed the factory pattern, I would expect to be put into the Open Class if the rule book said so. The tire has been cut.
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i would agree with you to a point and i'm sure you would feel differently if ALL the other guys running were twice your size in power and in tires and gearing...so now you know what position i was in IF people had signed up. but hey, to each their own.
 
Anyone know who WON the 4/6 CYL modified? I'm really curious to know
 
sounds like you should have run---quick winner if nobody else is in your class.
just think of the braggin you could have done by winnin the open class.
just sayin.
 
If you would have entered the open class you would have been the only one in the class and you would have atleast took home $100 just for running. Now that would not be the full payout because there were not 5 trucks in your class but I am glad you had fun and hope to see you again!!
 
jaybird1ton said:
If you would have entered the open class you would have been the only one in the class and you would have atleast took home $100 just for running. Now that would not be the full payout because there were not 5 trucks in your class but I am glad you had fun and hope to see you again!!
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i know that but i am not one to race alone and embarrass myself. Actually was a shame no buggies entered cause i would've given them a run for their money from hell with the little Jeep pegged the whole race just to see how far i go against them. I really like the park though and the trails are AWESOME!!!
 
The challenge here is racing requires rules for people to push. Leave the rules subjective and....

BTW I thought your Heep was a efi 4.0? Is bit carbed?
 
it is efi 4.0 all stock
 
Ok the only classes that allow efi are the pure street class.
Pure Street requires 33" tires.

hot street, mod street, etc all reference requiring carbs.

When it comes to automotive competition though I have learned one thing. Promoters create rules and then people bitch about their rules. There is no way around this.

Heck I applaud jason for getting the rules in 5 or 6 lines. I think my last attempt it took that many pages to determine a class
 
hey no biggie Ron at all man. I know nothing about races and rules and such...it was just a thought that i thought maybe could have a little more attention to or maybe looked at more closely in relation to others tires but it's all good. If and when a bunch of buggies are running Open Class someday, I will gladly sign up when i have several guys to race against but I mostly backed out cause racing alone just didn't seem to be much fun and didn't want to look like an idiot...(i've done enough of that already on the forum)
 
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