My Son learns a valuable "car guy" lesson

Ron

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So my son, Lane 16, bought a k5 back in August and has been steadily working to fix it up.

Started with a nice 1987 solid survivor.
Motor had been rebuilt and replaced with a 383 stroker and TBI had been maintained. Solid, zero rust truck. Factory AC still worked. Small 4" lift.

We did all the basic maintenance items, made sure it was reliable before allowing him to throw more money at it. Everything on this has been him. No daddy's money. He saved and bought a TJ a few years ago, fixed it up sold it for profit and that money has gone into this rig.

A new set of 35s replaed the dry rotted tires on the (widened to 10") factory rallys.

Over Christmas break he got it painted. New stereo system for his Birthday....its coming along into quite a solid truck.

Last week was spring break and he HAD to have new exhaust. To be fair the el cheapo inherited "turbo" mufflers had rusted the welds out and were banging around underneath. So off it went to the exhaust shop for all new 2.5" true duals, H pipe and Flowmaster Super 10s...because hes young and loud is still cool.

He comes home from the exhaust shop and says, "Dad while it was on the lift I noticed the PS/AC belt is missing a couple spots on it, will you help me change it"

Sure. Sounds like a good father son activity and its a $5 V belt....
Now the just my luck car guy lesson begins..spend money on performance and the maintenance gremlin will get mad.

So we head out to the garage late Saturday evening to change the belt. While under the hood the I notice the "main" belt (5 rib) is pretty weathered and tell him he needs to replace it while we have it of to replace the v belt.

No biggie. New project replace the V belt and the main belt. Total cost is now $25.

We get back from the parts store and take the belts off and while reassembling I notice the bearing is going on he water pump. Son that really needs to be changed while we are in here.

Back to Advance. replace the V belt and the main belt, and the water pump and a gallon of antifreeze. Total cost is now $60.

That project done and buttoned up and we drive it to make sure we get the air out of the system and coolant is topped off. I has an off idle miss that get worse at higher rpms. Not terrible but definitely needs a tune up. Pull a plug or two and they are tired and ready for replacements, the electrodes are all more round than square edges and they have been hot. The wires are all in good shape and they are custom and blue. That makes them cool so no new wires just 8 plugs.

Back to Advance. replace the V belt and the main belt, and the water pump and a gallon of antifreeze. Plus change 8 spark plugs only. Total cost is now $80.

Back home and pulling the rest of the plugs. Guess on plug 7 the boot pulls off in his hands. It was too short to begin with. no patching here. Now the cool blue plug wires got to go. We will go back with good OEM AC DELCO wires on the stock HEI. but...

Back to Advance. replace the V belt and the main belt, and the water pump and a gallon of antifreeze. Plus change 8 spark plugs only and wires. Total cost is now $113.

Ok back home and finishing the tune up. Get all the wires on but he did it kinda sloppy. Being a young impressionable guy he knows he needs to clean that mess up and make his engine compartment look respectable. Pulls plug 6 off the distributor and....distributor pin pulls out of cap. Now we are into a full tune up like dad suggested from the get go when the belt issue was brought up.

Back to Advance. replace the V belt and the main belt, and the water pump and a gallon of antifreeze. Plus change 8 spark plugs only and wires. Plus a new distributor cap and rotor button Total cost is now $153.

Back home. Cap, rotor button installed. Quick sort out of putting the plugs on the wrong distributor pin and move all of them 1 spot clockwise and...we are back together and buttoned up. Test drive proves the miss is gone and power is restored. 16 year old is happy he time was spent and Dad and son had a fun little experience.

(BTW I let him make all the parts store runs solo while I kept getting back on the lawn mower.)
Prices above are list price and do not reflect the TRT30 discount so actual all in cost was closer to $100.

Just thought it was a "normal project" and thought others would get a chuckle because isnt that how it always goes...
 
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Haha. Good all around lesson on maintenance and keeping some money in the bank too. Gonna really suck in a couple of weeks when after he thinks "well at least everything will be new and work for a while" the transmission takes a shit.

Yep...

actually next immediate spend is going to be replacing the np208. The tail shaft is cracked from a previous PO bozo attempt at replacing the rear seal and its getting worse. Just a matter of finding a 208 and spending 2 hours swapping it...If i had a nickel for everyone I've literally tossed over the years
 
There's a meme somewhere on the internet to the affect of 'this'll just take an hour'...shows a pic 8 hours later. Similarly, 'oh this is a $5 job'...$150 later. And I think your son just experienced how most restorations begin.
 
Good thing it was just an old small block Chevy and all those parts are cheap!
 
Yep...

actually next immediate spend is going to be replacing the np208. The tail shaft is cracked from a previous PO bozo attempt at replacing the rear seal and its getting worse. Just a matter of finding a 208 and spending 2 hours swapping it...If i had a nickel for everyone I've literally tossed over the years

If yall are ever up this way, I think I have 2 of them. Slip yoke rear, IIRC.

Might be worth the money to upgrade it to fixed yoke style if he plans to build it much farther.
 
Sounds like most of my projects, vehicle-related and others :)

See...I usually take it a step further...get all the parts, on the last bolt and pow, mother F***er. Broken bolt, hole stripped, Chinese part doesn't quite line up so I have to take apart to clearance, etc etc.
 
If yall are ever up this way, I think I have 2 of them. Slip yoke rear, IIRC.

Might be worth the money to upgrade it to fixed yoke style if he plans to build it much farther.


Im actually going to be in Newton Friday the 28th
 
Haha, we've all had days like that.

There have been times when, by the time I'm making the 3rd or 4rth store run, I go to AutoZone instead of Advance just so I don't have to have the inevitable mockery discussion w/ the same counter guy.

And yeah trt30 ftw
 
Ah yes, such a good story Ron, I feel his pain!

My brake job this weekend was really cheap too!! $22 per rotor shipped on Amazon, and this was only a 15 minute job (per side) Of course this all started a few weeks ago by buying a $300 Dewalt cordless set that included an impact wrench. Turns out that was not even enough to turn the lugnuts oh well. Then the very first bolt on the caliper breaks off as I backed it out. Then the bigger 17mm bolts will not BUDGE. So naturally I needed more power, $80 new air impact gun, and "ez outs" and a new bolt and a universal socket adapter for 1/2" and a new 17mm impact socket since mine was missing.. and SOB still did not move?????

Much much cursing, had to spend a few minutes in prayer asking for forgiveness, direction and maybe even a little divine intervention. Miracle of miracles, the ez out actually extracted the bolt, and I decided to risk unbolting the large bolt/nut that was keeping me from hitting my brake caliper directly and what do you know stuff actually starts breaking loose!! So now at 1030am, 3 hours after I started my 15 minute brake job, I actually had the rotor off, swapped it, and after much learning, the second side was actually done by 11am including putting all the new shiny tools away!!

I will not commit a dollar amount here for my "cheap" brake job as there is a slim chance my wife could read this and we prefer the saying "What happens at Lowes, stays at Lowes..." (insert Autozone and Harbor Freight here as needed)

-Sam
 
Of course this all started a few weeks ago by buying a $300 Dewalt cordless set that included an impact wrench. Turns out that was not even enough to turn the lugnuts oh well.
Clearly you didn't read up on NC4x4 about battery powered impacts :flipoff2: Take it back and get a Milwaukee M18. And search Milwaukee 18v and read the many threads on here.
 
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Cars and wimmin .... nothing is quick, easy or cheap.

:shaking:

Matt
 
You never fix ONE thing on an old truck. Everything you touch breaks. On Steph's 92 S10 with 700k on it we don't do anything that doesn't need to be done.

A while back the serpentine belt broke. The repair consisted of a new battery cable, new alternator, repaired power steering bracket, replacing 5 vacuum hoses and two wiring connectors, and one headlight adjuster.

My 90 C1500 needs brakes. I am a bit fearful of what I will run into.
 
Annnnnnnnd this morning on the way to school he calls me and tells me the throttle cable snapped.
Road side rescue and delivery to school and limp it home using a cut up towel for a hand throttle....

When he was routing the plug wires he apparently leaned on the throttle cable bracket and bent it....been in a bind for a week finally too much stress for a 30 year old cable.

Now....with the bracket bent that means not only has the throttle cable been bent but also the 700r4 TV cable....lets hope it wasnt enough to make @braxton357 prediction come true.
 
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