NYT Article "Please don't thank me for my service"

Ron

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That is a pretty strong article.

Sometimes when I get it, I can feel that it isnt a heartfelt "thanks". Just as the article describes. Sometimes I can sense that there is some emotion involved. One big difference I can tell are the people that will yell it halfway across the parking lot - it seems like they are the ones wanting the attention. The ones that will walk halfway across the parking lot out of their way to shake your hand seems a little more impressive.

It still feels semi empty. If you dont know me, you dont know what I have done. I will leave it at that - those that do know me, you know.

I do what I do to keep the shit off our doorstep. If it does get to our doorstep, guess who will be there to defend it.

If you want to join the cause, my number is \/.
 
You wear the uniform well soldier.
And you know my history as one also.
;)
 
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I can guarantee, that if I ever thank someone for their service, it is heart felt and sincere. I dont go out of my way to do it, bc alot of times I get the feeling they've heard it 1000x before. My father served 29 Yrs, he retired a CSM at Ft Jackson. I am truly thankful for him and the others like him, but I can also agree with the article, where it basically states "Actions speak louder than words"
 
I read the article. I do not want to be thanked nor do I thank others for serving. For me, in my time, it was what I was supposed to do. We were at war and the "revolution" of the 60s hadn't set in yet. From my perspective my country needed me, enough said, I went. I just did what thousands before me had done. Nothing special, nothing I need to be thanked for. You don't need to thank me for taking care of my family, sending my kids to college, returning the wallet I find on the street with all contents intact, shoveling my invalid neighbors walk, it's a part of who I am, I don't need thanks for that, what I would like to see is that it causes others to do the same!
 
Well said as always JC. Sometimes people do it for the right reasons and it can make you feel good at the time but then it can bring back a lot of bad memories too. So just remember we joined on our own free will cause of our love of this country. And we hold things to ourselves not to be rude or mean but cause not all of it is fun and games like people want to believe.
 
Let me first start off by saying that I did not serve in any form of the armed services. I graduated high school in 1990 which was about as close to "peace-time" as you could really get (just before Desert Storm). I went to a college-preparatory high school and we only had 2 of our graduates go into the military after graduation - our graduating class was around 100 so we pretty much knew everyone. One had dreams of being an Army Ranger and the other a Navy Seal. I have little doubt that both followed their dreams, but never kept in touch with either.

That being said, I do have a profound respect for the military. My father, uncles and one of my nephews were (are) in various branches of the service. Most people after September 11 share in my respect and gratitude of servicemen and women who for whatever motive elected to put themselves in harm's way for the protection of our freedoms and protection of civilian life around the world. Whether you are on the front lines of Afghanistan, plucking roadside bombs from the roads of Mogadishu, or testing a software upgrade to a server at the Pentagon, you don a uniform and carry out your tasks because that's what you do. Most goes completely unseen to the public as it should. When we are made aware of casualties and losses, we mourn - human decency commands it. When we see a uniformed soldier en route to or from war or even in a social setting, it's also human nature to thank him or her for what it is that their uniform stands for. When we thank a serviceman or woman, we don't do it to dig up old wounds or somehow thank that individual for their individual contribution, we do it to acknowledge that soldiers before them, standing beside them and for generations to come are all part of the fabric of our existence. We all sleep soundly at night with the knowledge that because of our military, no enemy harm will befall us.

I do agree with the sentiment that if the appreciation is shown with a more selfish intent, it's best to save it. If it's not genuine, it's not needed. My son is 5 and soldiers fascinate him. Our church does an outreach event for veterans on Veteran's Day. He regularly will ask veterans about what they did in the Army, etc. and he hangs on every word of their stories. I'm sure the stories are not all easy to repeat, conjuring up images that were meant to stay locked up inside. I would hate to think that a child such as mine asked a question of the author or said thank you to him in such a way that it turned them spiteful. This is how the article comes across to me.

The article mentions Vietnam and how soldiers were spit on and somehow that's better than empty thanks. I can see that point, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Just because a small contingent of those expressing appreciation are self-centered and disingenuous, doesn't mean we all are.
 
Not all folks serving or have served feel this way. This guy just happened to get his opinion in the media and all of a sudden he speaks for all. It sounds like he's dealing with some demons . I don't fault him for his opinion. Some guys have a tough time with all of it once they're home.
 
I did not have the balls to serve, i graduated right after desert storm and few from our school where lost in what I felt was protecting "our" oil rights vs other reasons. That said I have some VERY Badass friends that have served and I am grateful for, in all times there are soldiers and there are support networks for them, I feel like I am in the later part of that statement. I have listened and try to be there as much as I could(I have not been there, done it, but have seen the pain and hurt and haunting that others have). I have randomly bought meals for soldiers when eating out because I have seen what they go through trying to live on base pay. Makes me mad that many have to learn the hard way life lessons because many go from mom and dads house to getting paid montly without much help with budgeting etc etc.....

That said, I have said thank you and meant it. I was raised to say it and sometimes think I do too much and others not enough. I will say that supporting our vets is an under appreciated and under "thanked"(not necessarily the exact words but actions, as in discounts, perks etc etc.) Many vets have life long issues, either mental or physical and many don't see it because we(the generation I have been raised in that is very self center for the most part, I would agree that it is a selfish act to make themselves feel better more times that not). I do believe that some are genuine in there thanking but many are "going through the motions"....
 
I have not served. I have close friends and family who have or are serving our country. I try to not "thank" people but i prefer the random act of kindness, like the anonymous payment for a meal. I would rather let someone feel an act of kindness instead of having to respond to my gratitude when that may not be how they are feeling.
 
I thank soldiers for their service because, as a former soldier who never went to combat, I appreciate their sacrifice. As a fellow veteran, and I do tell them I served, I understand what they have been asked to do, especially when considering that they represent those who wouldn't/couldn't serve.
 
I hope I didn't come off the wrong way. Anyone who knows me or has talked to me knows that iI am very appreciative of people's thoughts and thanks. I also thank people that have\are serving but not only the soldiers but firemen,police,emt's and the such because there's a battle going on hear as well and they put there lives on the line to keep us safe also. Anyone that wants to say thank you or donate should look into 4 wheel 2 heal, they are awesome folks who take vets out wheeling.
 
I don't get my panties in a wad either way, although to be honest half the time when someone thanks me it feels a bit hollow.

None of us served to be thanked anyways, if you get upset over it then maybe you have issues.
 
I always feel a little awkward on this topic. I never served, hell, never even crossed my mind...too selfish and stuck on myself I suppose. My best friend went to the Naval Academy and another friend went to West Point, and both my grandfathers served. But I have always tried to be courteous when I see someone in uniform, try to thank them, buy their meal/coffee, and other tokens of gratitude. But I usually feel 'they' feel it's just an empty token gesture. Not sure if it's paranoia or I feel inadequate/guilty in 'their' presence (because I didn't give up/risk what they did), but I always feel awkward, no matter their reaction. But if even 1 service man or woman appreciates it, I'll keep doing it.
 
I don't mind being thanked, but then again I'm not a combat veteran. It makes some people uncomfortable to be treated differently for any reason, be it good or bad. A lot of my brothers in arms had to do things they may not be proud of and don't feel a "thanks" is warranted, others were just doing their job. When someone thanks me, I consider it a genuine gesture and I don't take offense to it.
 
I would prefer if they just showed me their tits instead.

Is there anyway to get some traction on this idea?
 
I'm not exactly sure what's going on here, but it seems a little :gay:
 
I'm not exactly sure what's going on here, but it seems a little :gay:

I showed my appreciation to the armed services in the requested manner...I don't ask.

UTfball68, you looked pretty good in your prime :flipoff:

Thanks man...'my prime' wasn't so long ago, but it's all moved south in the last 2-3 years, eating the same, but spending more time in airplanes than a field, really changes your look. If you're referring to the other pic as 'my prime'...I think I was 16 and went to school as a hooker for Halloween.
 
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