OBA

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cookiemonster

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Just got done testing a oba system I'm trying to start selling just wandering how many people would be interested. It is a 12 volt set up that uses a york. I can pump a 5 gal tank from 0-150psi in 1:20 (1min 20sec). I have ran this setup on my air bagged truck and in my xj for a little while now and it works great. My air ride on my truck uses it daily and quite a few times a day. Hit me up if you are interested. Just trying to get out there and test the waters for the guys that can't fit one under the hood. Looking to try an sell them for $400-500. Great to air up after wheelin, lockers, air tools etc.
 
Much more credibility comes from a paid member, or even better from a guy with a vendor status.
More detail, pictures and so on would help a bunch. If ya really want to impress, take a video of it airing up a flat 38" tire, or bigger.
Hope this helps
 
Thanks ill do that tomorrow night. Ill get video and post a link to youtube^^^. Also I'm just trying to get a feel for who would want something like this not really trying to push it hard right now
 
Well I'll chime in.
First...you say it uses a York but "dont have room under hood"...if you are going to use 12V to power an air compressor there are much better options than a york. If you are using the engine drive belt...well I dont see what you are selling thats new.

For $500 I can buy a couple power tanks...or I could outfit somewhere around 4.5 vehicles with a York set up.
150 psi on a 5 gallon tank in 80 seconds...meh not really super impressive.

You wanted opinions..you got mine. Sounds like you got a $150 idea and you want to sell it for $500....I say good luck.
 
Basically it is like a oasis which are $900 on a good day. So for that price it would be a deal. The cheapest setup like it I have found is 680. I would be selling a new setup. Brand new york 210. Which u can't get for less than 180 new. So you tell me how u are going to equip 4-5 vehicles with new york setups. Not including checkvalves and wiring them. For these guys running v8 in small trucks like mine u have an issue getting stuff under the hood. Plus this is mobil meaning you can wire it to move from vehicle to vehicle in a matter of un pluging it. You tell me where u can come out cheaper getting a compressor that is 12v pump that fast.
 
honestly think with this crowd, you wouldnt sell many. too many of them are the type that would rather make there own set up than pay that much. yorks are quick but by using an electric motor to power one would be a large draw on the amps
 
The amps change as the strain from psi changes. I'm running a red top battery in my toyota with a stock sbc 350 alternator. Still getting into testing amps because as of now I do not have a dc amp clamp but it should not pull no more than your standard winch. I have used it daily for 2 months now and no problems. Ill go get pics now gotta go to garage. I got behind at work so wasn't able to earlier today.
 
Out of my price range, but then,I don't require high specks. I'm running a converted York, engine mounted, under the hood, tied into the bumper & nerf bars, for tank.
Works for me!
 
note that it is starting at 100psi and going to 180psi roughly. it is around 1:20 from empty to 150psi. at lower psi it gains faster and slows in gain as it gets up in psi. so roughly 100-150 in 30 seconds
 
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nice looking set up! hopefully you could make a couple and sell them decent between the 4wd and bagged communities, im bagging a 85 chevy cclb dually on 24'' semis now!! and planning on an york edc
 
Pretty slick set-up...for constructive criticism, if you decide to sell them, you may want to think about adding a blow-off valve and a protective cover for the chain. The only reason I mention the BOV (didn't see one in the pics), is in case the pressure switch fails, you don't want a 180+psi bomb behind the driver's seat. The cover for the chain would prevent debris/trash/fingers from getting caught...just trying to help prevent a disastrous situation.

As mentioned before, I think the price is a bit high for the nc4x4 shade tree mechanics. I know I've outfitted my trail rig & tow rig both with OBA for <$500 (including switches, hose, accessories). My trail rig has the typical york 210 belt driven under the hood in place of the A/C compressor going to a 3-4 gallon tank (~$100) & my tow rig has twin 100% duty cycle electric pumps going to twin 2 gallon tanks (~$300).

EDIT: also as mentioned before, if you want to start selling these as a side gig or whatever, you may want to consider getting a vendor membership (or at least a paid membership)
 
cookiemonster said:
The amps change as the strain from psi changes. I'm running a red top battery in my toyota with a stock sbc 350 alternator. Still getting into testing amps because as of now I do not have a dc amp clamp but it should not pull no more than your standard winch. I have used it daily for 2 months now and no problems. Ill go get pics now gotta go to garage. I got behind at work so wasn't able to earlier today.
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still need the amps range from 0 to 150 psi
my winch pulls 50 to 350 amps & i thank that is alot
 
Here is my set up in the back of my YJ. Did not cost nearly the price you are asking. However, I did have to add a second alternator to run any other electrical appliance when running the compressor. The single alternator would run the system but turn on the parking lights and the 3.4L chevy engine would die. I run a 4.5 HP Ramsey winch Motor( $80), York compressor ($20), DB electric solenoid ($25), Tractor supply pressure switch, filter, water separator, regulator, 7.5 gallon tank. I think I have about $200 in the set up.
 

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At one time, there was a company making a similar one. Except it was a direct drive, mating the motor to the compressor via a coupler, IIRC. Also, wondering, do you do the upgrade where you block of the one oil passage behind the pulley to keep oil out of your tank?. I am also thinking 110-120 is plenty for a shut off PSI. Really don't need that kinda pressure in a trail tank. And as said, a blow off system will help the compressor life. Amp draw shouldn't be an issue as much as a winch, even though using a similar motor. I don't think the load would be near as much on the compressor as it would be on a winch pulling a load.
 
hey I recognize that jeep in that last pic!!! pretty sure that guy is being sought in connection to a peeping tom incident with my grandma!! does he look like Hank Hill and sound like the old molester man on Family guy???
 
That is definitely interesting. It sounds like you are using yours for pretty short bursts of compressing. That looks to be a winch motor, which if it's like every other winch motor I've ever seen is rated only for intermittent duty. Of course that is just fine for most of our purposes, but mine has been known to see extended use occasionally, like airing up a whole line of rigs for 30 minutes straight, or running all day long to power a roofing air nailer. I'm curious at what you would rate the duty cycle at. Most folks wouldn't care if they were cobbling their own stuff together, but if they're laying out five bills for something like that they are going to want to know. The compressor is of course good for 100% duty cycle, but I'm betting the motor is far from it. Also, have you tested it to see what RPM you're turning on the compressor? I'm curious because I know that with mine there is a HUGE difference in air flow between leaving the truck just idling and running the engine at maybe 1200 RPM. I'm not sure what that comes out to in RPM at the compressor, but it makes a difference. Just a little bit off idle I can run an impact wrench almost continuously for as long as I want. At idle...not so much. I'm sure you don't have a CFM figure, but RPM would be a good start to at least let you calculate a theoretical CFM number. I will say that I like the idea and your build looks very clean, so good luck with this.
 
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