Project CO2...

spraypaintman said:
So is it ok to use air tools with the 150psi static regulator from Offroad Air?
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Since what you're actually going to get is more around 120psi, I would say yes, and know several people who have done so - including myself. ;)

Something you can get from Lowe's isn't meant for the flow that tools or air chucks will pass through them, and will freeze.
 
Cool, cause that fixed one from offroad air is less expensive than a high pressure adjustable regulator. I just priced one at Linde Gas for $85.
 
spraypaintman said:
Cool, cause that fixed one from offroad air is less expensive than a high pressure adjustable regulator. I just priced one at Linde Gas for $85.
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Why do you think I'm running the fixed one? :p I also didn't wanna worry about smashing the gauges.. The KISS principle. I'm also planning on buying a cheapy 1/2" drive impact to carry.. Something I won't cry over if it gets muddy, smashed, driven over, etc..
 
Ok, Lyle (Rich) Lovett you're not making any sense now. :D

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just messin with ya man... :D
 
spraypaintman said:
Do you mean rent or buy one? If so how much can I save? Thanks.
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I've seen the 15# ones for around $70. The aluminum ones are nice, but I was just thinking about renting one of theirs. I don't really care much what it looks like and I like the idea of dropping one off and picking on up right away, rather than waiting around to have "mine" filled.

Jeff
 
HAve to disagree on this one. To move your tank(C02) you have to un mount it, and carry it to where you need it. Me, I just pull out my hose, have two coiled ones, and air up or what ever. Finished just put the hose away. Not sure about around there, but around here full size waggys are abundant. So there is all your brackets and compressor. get the hoses to it. Once installed cut them. One for air intake with some sort of filter, one for your airline. Lowes sells all fittings needed. Put in your pressure switch, I got mine at NAPA for like $20, and some line run to your air tank. Many ways of doing it. I think I have less than 60 bucks in my whole set up. And I never have to go fill it up. At idle it fills in about 3 mins, and at 1600 rpm's in about 1 min. I can run my grinder, wire brush, impact, and drill.

As far as the re-seating a bead, it's more of a volumn thing than a pressure thing. Best set up I have seen is a guy who used a bead blaster as an air tank. He could remove it if needed. Had like a 1" pipe about 16: long with a valve. with the tank full, he put it pointed to the bead and opened the valve. It released so much air at once the tire seated imeadiatly! Kewl set up.

My .02
 
upnover said:
To move your tank(C02) you have to un mount it, and carry it to where you need it. Me, I just pull out my hose, have two coiled ones, and air up or what ever.
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Though I think OBA (not tank) is a much better idea...we did have several situations this weekend at URE where having OBA didn't help the Jeep in need. Primarily at the first hairpin on Daniel. Had to re seat a bead just after the turn. My Jeep was 100 feet down the trail, the one in front was 100 feet up the hill...was nice to be able to carry a CO2 tank to the bead...I'm still sticking with a compressor though.
 
chip pretty much summed up my thoughts on OBA, but ill add a few more... i think long term and always have the worst situation in mind and how "I" can be self suficient in solving my own problem(s). Its one less thing i need to "top off" and get ready and filled. Also I like being able to run air tools for as long as i need, yes I may have to wait to recharge the tank/head but i dont really work that fast. I think if people are creative with a bumper/tank etc. you can have a small tank for added capacity.

Seating beads, I have H1s so np for me.. but there are ways to deal with other normal bead issues...

Also I carry 25' of hose with normal quick connects, It easily attaches ot other similer hoses. I Also I have a double ended coupler to couple to females if needed to join 2 oBA systems... now you've doubled your capacity etc.. I few extra fittings/valves can be very helpful...

just a few other thoughts... -my
 
BTDT, too much time if you have other options.
 
the BMW shop i work at runs on 150 psi, all our tools are happy. kind of OT, but what other AC compressors work for OBA besides a york? is there a GM pump that gets used as much as a york does for jeeps?
 
Any AC compressor can be used. The difference in them is how they lubricate themselves. You may have to add an oiler and a seperater, but any of them can be used and will work to varying degrees.
 
I spent a grand total of $134 on my C02 set up.

-That's with the static 150 psi regulator
-an air hose
-locking chuck
-new 10 lb. aluminum tank with a handle

To fill it up with C02 will be around $14. I'll get pics later today for you guys.

Hodie
 
I've been thinking about this since last weekend when I stopped by Terri moorefields sho pand saw his 20# bottle set-up. Now I have my brother asking his buddies that work in the beverage industry to see if they've had.. er um.. any aluminum bottle fall off the back of the truck lately.. :D

What regulator did you go with? is there a link to it?
 
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http://www.offroadair.net/products.html
Then click on View ALL Source Products On-Line, then scroll down untill you see the regulators.

I got the 150psi static regulator from Off Road Air excpet mine doesn't have the bend in it. I think it was $26.75. I already had the quick release. I might get one of the 45deg bends so it looks like the pic.
 
Finished...total package...independent sticker from the old school skateboard days... :D
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150psi static regulator from Offroadair
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Locking air chuck....
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sweet.... :D :beer:

Like I said before I might get one of those 45deg bends for the air hose quick release & then use some teflon tape to seal it all up.
 
spraypaintman said:
Finished...total package...independent sticker from the old school skateboard days... :D
150psi static regulator from Offroadair
Locking air chuck....

sweet.... :D :beer:

Like I said before I might get one of those 45deg bends for the air hose quick release & then use some teflon tape to seal it all up.
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Sounds like your all set!!! When we goin wheelin?! :)

Gary
 
I almost have the jeep buttoned up. A bunch of little things that add up to a good weekend of work. Devils Playground looks fun.
 
I didn't realize this was a long thread when I read it earlier, it came up on my screen as ... hell long story, I didn't notice...


Anyway, after reading thru it now, Why go CO2 when you can go OBA? EASY! K.I.S.S. what's easier than a tank, a regulator, a hose, and whatever tool you want to plug onto it? no water seperators, no Extra heat source under the hood, no routing lines to a tank. 3000 PSI stored in liquid form, with ondemand pressure anytime of clean air (CO2 ..whatever!), and portability!

not tom ention that CO2 will airt a tire faster than your OBA, it'll run air tools, and it lasts long enough that running out really isn't a concern. Also, you don't have to run your engine to use it!

CO2 is the way to go! Thanks for the thread Noah!

brentA
 
You got it Brent. Keep it simple stupid.....I think it took me all of 60 seconds to put together my OBA. :D
 
C02 pros

I bought a 20# tank because I have to drive 30 miles to get it refilled. We have a farm and the CO2 tank is just too portable not to have handy. I don't want to get the Jeep out to where the air is needed sometimes. The CO2 bottle is just another tool in my shop for emergency repair stuff. Dont forget it will also run air nailers and tools other than automotive. I also like the KISS design. My Jeep doesnt need more underhood equipment to maintain.
 
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