Scared from the flop?

Tech11

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Back in june I had my little adventure where I did everything you shouldn't do and went "for a quick ride" alone, and wound up flopping my jeep.

I wasn't hurt, the jeep was back on all four wheels quicker than it took me to get out of the thing, thanks to some people that happened to come along just as I climbed out, and I FINALLY got the jeep back out of the repair shop, all fixed up for the most part.

Leading up to the flop I was.....reckless wasn't/isn't the right word, maybe overzealous maybe, overconfident in my abilities or the abilities of my jeep, and wouldn't think twice about at least trying some pretty hairy stuff.(for my jeep/set up anyway)

So TODAY, I was fooling around, not even off road really, just messing over in a back lot at a location where I work, that has this incline, it was to the passengers side, where my flop was to the drivers side, and I sorta freaked out.

It was nowhere near the lean of the flop (obviously) and nowhere near angles I've done at URE and not thought twice about, but I just kinda chickened out and it was nothing, I was all HOLY CRAP ITS GONNA ROLL and backed out.

I know some of you flip and roll and Eval Kaneval on a regular basis, or have a few under your belt, or maybe you don't but, I'm all weirded out now. Maybe cause it's my DD, anyone else experienced this? Is it one of those dust off, and pull yourself up by your bootstraps things, and learn a lesson?

One other thing, upon closer inspection, I've realized I need more skid plates(TRANSMISSION!!) or to really lay off the rocks, so it may also be a whole "I almost crapped the bed big time" thing with my DD.
 
Do what you're comfortable with; however maybe you should spend more time wheeling to get to know your limits better.
 
I was JUST getting comfortable banging away on stuff like the ledge or in the rock garden. I wanna try to get a trip in before the next work day I dunno if that'll happen or not though.
 
Dr. Phill would probably say that deep inside it was the possibility of embarrasment of flopping near the work enviroment, that caused you to chicken out. After your first flop, you questioned your own sanity, and now...your subcontious mind does not want co-workers to question it as well.

Get back to URE, and get that confident feeling back.

Your jeep is not indestructable and you should always use good judgment yada yada

The more you wheel, the more you will upgrade..the more you will break because upgrading mean harder lines, which means more flops are possible in your future:driver:

Hope that helps
 
Im with Hurley. Sounds like you need more time in the dirt. also.....Turn into the flop when in side-hilling or off camber, it will prevent a roll.


i know im a bit more daring in a trail rig than i am a daily driver, however, the only vehicles ive ever flopped have been daily drivers, lol.
 
I know some of you flip and roll and Eval Kaneval on a regular basis, or have a few under your belt, or maybe you don't but, I'm all weirded out now.

Well after the first few it isn't bad, but I'd never wheel my DD.

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i have flopped to differnt cab tractors one was just a few months old and it took me awhile but i got brave again
 

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Roll cage and harnesses. I am nervous wheeling when there isnt a roll cage. If I have a cage around me, a roll just makes it more interesting....
 
Rolling or flopping your rig for the first time is a creepy strange feeling.....

So is sitting next to some toothless guy named Bubba in the cab of his tow truck, choking on second hand cigarette smoke, and looking behind you and seeing your Jeep getting a magic carpet ride back home cuz you broke the crap out of it.

That's also up there with being 400 miles away on 3 day wheeling trip hours ahead of the rest of your Jeep club, breaking a 1 1/2" 1/4" DOM tie rod in HALF and roaming around aimlessly through a two horse town trying to find somebody to let you borrow their welder.

These are a few of my favorite things! :fuck-you:

You'll be just fine.
 
Be happy it was just a flop. Seems like everywhere I go like that the flop direction would start you rolling down a mountain. Talk about ass clenching.

I'm in a daily driver too so I know how you feel. If I trailered the jeep to the mountain and back with a nice roll cage I think I'd feel a lot better. Maybe someday.
 
Sounds like you are nervous about fawking up your DD Jeep again due to the cost of repairs.

Get a beater trail rig. Then you just get mad when you flop because you know you have to climb out and right it.
 
OK, this looks like a good thread to ask this question. Say you flop, and you are fine, but the rig is on its side. You have friends their to push it back right side up, is there anything else you should do? Meaning, don't crank it up until the oil drains back down, remove the oil cap, clean the spark plugs, or what?
 
That seems to depend on the rig. I've seen and heard of guys bending connecting rods from trying to start the engine after a rig has been on its side. My Samurai fires up right away with no problems, but the engine is out of a 97 Suzuki Sidekick, with only 79,000 miles so must be tight. I've heard people say that if the engine has worn oil control rings, then the oil drains on top of the piston, and if you turn the key, damage can happen. The safest thing to do is pull the plugs and spin the engine over to blow out any oil that may have drained on top of the pistons.
 
That seems to depend on the rig. I've seen and heard of guys bending connecting rods from trying to start the engine after a rig has been on its side. The safest thing to do is pull the plugs and spin the engine over to blow out any oil that may have drained on top of the pistons.

X2. I always yank the plugs out n spin it over after a flop. Though I've never rolled mine I've had two wheeling buddy's roll. One was the Sammy buggy last year in harlan at lion's den. BTW I guess we will see you in a week big clay.
 
Oh yeah Tim, I was there when he rolled in Lion's Den, that was a late night getting back to camp. Yep, we will be there again this time next week, can't wait!!
 
I have yet to flop my truck, and I don't plan on doing so. With that said I have come extremely close to flopping on many occasions. Thank god I haven't, because way too many times have I found my self well within arms reach of the ground next to me. I used each time as a learning experience of what the limitations of my truck are.

Before your roll you were just starting to scratch the surface of what your vehicle was capable of doing. I will say I was 90 percent sure we were going to roll on the double ledge, but that was just another learning experience of what your vehicle can and can't do.

It will take some time probably, but the more time you spend on the trails getting back into the groove of things the better. The flop may have been a temporary set back, but don't let it turn into a permanent one. :beer:
 
Never really flopped or rolled my jeep, had a few close calls, but never really worried. At the same time, I have rolled a go cart end over end (somewhat of a roll cage), flipped on a dirtbike, and god knows how many other accidents on toys. Never really been scared to roll though, I think the best upgrade would be to invest in a full cage and some seats with 5 points. Thatll boost your confidence a good bit.

I regularly ride with 71chevytruckguy on the board in his stretched yj with a factory sport cage, I have spotted for him a lot and we have yet to flip, but there have been some damn close calls and it'll make yer butthole pucker. Its a hell of an adrenaline rush though so its worth it.
 
Last summer at one of the Line Mountain races, I flopped on my side. Came out of nowhere, was just barely moving along... had stopped to let some faster guys pass, when pulling back on the trail my front D-side tire bumped up on a tree, just as the P-side fell in a gully I didn't see... and POW over it went. Caught me completely off guard. Especially after doing so many high-speed corners, careening through fields over off-camber bumps etc.
Just a few weeks prior I'd gotten an exo cage, my first thought was, "That was a good investment", lol.
A bunch of spectators were right there, they pushed it back on all 4s... and off we went. It wasn't until later I realized I never even turned off the motor. Haven't noticed any problems since - but it was totally rebuilt only maybe 20k ago.
 
OK, this looks like a good thread to ask this question. Say you flop, and you are fine, but the rig is on its side. You have friends their to push it back right side up, is there anything else you should do? Meaning, don't crank it up until the oil drains back down, remove the oil cap, clean the spark plugs, or what?
put the dang parking brake on and make sure its not in neutral...either that, or be sure someone's filming so they can post the video of your rig rolling out of control down hill on youtube :lol:
 
put the dang parking brake on and make sure its not in neutral...either that, or be sure someone's filming so they can post the video of your rig rolling out of control down hill on youtube :lol:

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