School me on ORI struts...

BShore

BShore

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I am BRAND NEW to seeing these ORI struts. I have read every Google search result I could find on the interwebs, but I still have questions. I have seen them on several builds and in pics of KOH cars, but I would like to hear from people who have used them.

With a set of these, You REALLY don't need a sway bar? How is that? I understand that these are pressurized to set the ride height, and don't "push off" like springs, but how do they handle weight transfer/body roll?

How do these handle high speed bumps like a series of whoops? Are they close to comparable to some of those sweet @ss tree bronch looking bypass shocks and coilovers? How do they compare to just coilovers?

How about on a full body street-to-trail FJ40? Are they a scary idea to run a set on a rear 4 link that sees highway time?

What about reliability?

Love 'em, hate 'em? Opinions?
 
They don't allow as much body roll because the bottom side of the piston has a charge that prevents it from extending as easily.

Bombing down a fire road they do excellent. Are they a triple bypass shock? no way. Are they comparable to a set of coilovers? Now you're getting closer.. but a tuned set of coilovers would perform better at speed. (but wouldn't resist pushing off as well as the ORI, IMO) There's much less tuning to do with ORI's.

I'm running a set on my junk and really like 'em, I'd use 'em on a street rig, but you may want to look at making a way to protect the shock shafts from getting pitted.

Thing is, you need to build the suspension to have a good amount of uptravel to get the most out of these. 5" up on a 14" is IMO the baaaare minimum. 6 would be better, 7 is "ideal" (half the shock travel).

I'm hated by the guys I run with for how smooth the buggy rides.
 
I'm going this way and talking to everybody who runs them and riding in 4 rigs with them over a variety of conditions my opinion is this.

They are no where near a triple bypass.
They are not as good as a set of decent coilovers when perfectly set up.
They are better than 90% of every set of coilovers in use because see above.
They do not have as much adjustability as coilovers but they are mucch easier to get real damn close.

They ride awesome as fuck.

make sure you get the right length...you can not adjust that out
 
Thanks guys. It is awesome to hear straight from guys that have run them. This is also a noob question, but has anyone ever seen/heard of an ORI being used plus a triple bypass shocks on the same corner? Sounds weird, but Just throwing it out there. Thanks.
 
Not sure what the fascination with a bypass shock is, but no, I haven't heard of it being done, probably because bypasses are used for high-speed desert-type stuff, and ORI's aren't meant for that.
 
BIGWOODY said:
Run a sway bar with them if you want to go fast around turns.
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I thought one of the benefits of dropping the $$$$ on the ORI's was that you didn't need to buy bumpstops and swaybars like you do with either air shocks or coilovers? I've been half ass thinking about turning my cab truck into a buggy and running ORI's.
 
drkelly said:
I thought one of the benefits of dropping the $$$$ on the ORI's was that you didn't need to buy bumpstops and swaybars like you do with either air shocks or coilovers? I've been half ass thinking about turning my cab truck into a buggy and running ORI's.
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Again...if you want to go FAST around turns...run a sway bar on the rear. I've run mine both ways, just telling you what worked best.
 
ive been playing with a couple sets of here at the shop and greg is right. you have to compromise to much of the ride quality by making them really stiff to get all the body roll out. now you can get alot of it out but at speeds there is still some there. for me i would want a little softer ride and add the sway bar for stability.
 
Thanks y'all. So there are 2 different kinds, of the ST's and the DP3's, what have you guys run? From what I have read the DP3's are more capable in the high speed corners use than compared to the ST's? Do I have this backwards? I also read that the DP3's are being re-engineered? I am getting the majority of this from Pirate4x4. On the ORI web site, the DP3's are unavailable for now?

I guess what I am asking is; are the DP3's the way to go, between the two if I am wanting to use a set on the rear of my FJ40 that will be on the road, and then see some "fast" off road runs?

Thanks everyone.
 
Just fyi, order them WAY before you need them. Mine took something like 20 weeks to get. Granted I got mine in blue, that took 3 extra weeks, but you get the idea.
 
BShore said:
I guess what I am asking is; are the DP3's the way to go, between the two if I am wanting to use a set on the rear of my FJ40 that will be on the road, and then see some "fast" off road runs?
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Your/my/99% of people's definition of fast off road is NOT the same as bigwoody's definition of fast, just for your reference.

I can see where a sway bar on the back could help dial in the suspension a little more. I don't get NEAR the lean I got with just coilovers and no sway, but in a long (several hundred feet) sliding turn I do remember feeling it lean over.. still felt safe, but it was leaned. At race pace, I could see a sway bar making it perfect.

The DP3's are significantly more expensive than the ST's, and that money could be better used elsewhere IMO.
 
Ha, yeah I guess "fast" is subjective... Rich, so you are running the ST's? I completely agree that the way to go would be if you could do a set of ST's and a sway bar for cheaper than a a set of the DP3's. With that would you get close to the same result?
 
I don't know of anyone running the DP3's.
 
Any updates on these struts anyone? I saw the 3D reloaded YJ looks friggan awesome sitting on them and some comments on how the rode, just looking for any more word. Anyone have any video of these in action?
 
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