some things i have done

hmmm....maybe i missed it but is that an old car bumper jack? You mite can beat someone up with it but please do not jack your rig up with it. Unless you mount a 67 ford fairlane bumper to it. Ditch the jack, it really looks silly, and keep your eyes peeled for some used bumpers and sliders so you can acutually use a highlift jack.
 
iwinuluz said:
yes i actually got it off an old grand wagoneer. i plan on getting a high lift xtreme jack when i get a couple bills. but for now i would rather have SOMETHING than be stuck
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Oh i found it, you will still be stuck with that jack but at least you can use it for protection in the woods, like beating off the bears or something.
 
iwinuluz said:
but you cannot deny MAD MAX WAS COOL !!!
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One of my favorite movies! OTOH, he had a blown SBF in the Interceptor, a sawed off double-barrel, & a mean @$$ dog... you have none of that.

What he did NOT have was chains dangling from the bumper...

And before some practical joker attaches 1 of your chains to say... a fire hydrant, parking meter, or some grannies Mercedes, which you damage (oh yeah, YOU'RE still liable) as you drive away from the mall, do yourself a huge favor...
 
- LOSE the hooks, totally/completely. They'd only be good for the single reason you'd need a chain (see above, which you don't). There should be NO hooks on the recovery strap the past 5 folks have suggested. Hooks & clevis's for that matter, become projectiles if/when the strap breaks... think of a medieval "mace" with the ability to cut humans in half.

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I agree, but for the record, a large 3/4 pin clevis works really well and "put in the hitch" would be plenty strong. I maybe should have specified. Either way some sort of connection has to be made at the end of the strap. As for things failing and flying about, most of the time its from a failed mounting point. If your stupid enough to rely on some 1/2 shank clevis its your damn head. On a note of more common sense: all parties invovled should inspect whats going on, I'm definately not going to get involved in any such situation without doing so. I know bystanders are around but its up to those invovled to keep a handle on things.
Not trying to over rule or anything. More of a self defense plee:driver:.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
... If you ask most people they would rather not run safety chains on a trailer. The DOT requires them so you have to have them. I personal would rather get away from a trailer that has went FUBAR enough to require chains to catch it.:beer:
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Are you kidding me?? Have you ever had to use the chains?? I had a ball break once and the chains saved the trailer and maybe someone in the oncomming lane's life. Chains are good. Remember when you hook up your chains to cross them so they craddle the tounge if the hitch fails.
 
Good save. I've always just imagined them adding to the catastrophy in a crash situation I guess, not really contemplated a normal worst case senerio. I did lose a trailer once. The chains however broke and it took a hard right to the ditch. Thats what I got for trusting someone with me for hooking the coupler. I do run the chains crossed and was mostly hoping to reinforce my other viewpoint.
 
iwinuluz - give a call to Ashely Sling Inc. on Graham Street in Charlotte. They've got good prices (from what I hear) in case you want another reference besides Tractor Supply or an implement store.

warriorwelding - had the same thing happen to me once....the trailer ended up taking out about 5 saplings, hit a fallen pine and the bicycles inside it destroyed the front of the trailer (wooden). The nut on the bottom of the ball came loose and well, diaster struck.
 
Caver Dave said:
And before some practical joker attaches 1 of your chains to say... a fire hydrant, parking meter, or some grannies Mercedes, which you damage (oh yeah, YOU'RE still liable) as you drive away from the mall, do yourself a huge favor...
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lol....reminds me of those skater dorks who wear pants with chains on them. ha...back in high school i put a lock on one of those guys when he wasnt looking and locked him to his desk.
 
iwinuluz said:
yes i actually got it off an old grand wagoneer. i plan on getting a high lift xtreme jack when i get a couple bills. but for now i would rather have SOMETHING than be stuck
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iwinuluz,
how do you plan on using that to get you un-stuck? I don't understand...
and why not use a wood bumper rather than a metal bumper?
badog
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
Good save. I've always just imagined them adding to the catastrophy in a crash situation I guess, not really contemplated a normal worst case senerio. I did lose a trailer once. The chains however broke and it took a hard right to the ditch. Thats what I got for trusting someone with me for hooking the coupler. I do run the chains crossed and was mostly hoping to reinforce my other viewpoint.
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I tend to agree... having seen a couple decoupled travel trailers, the tongue starts going side to side & both pulled the umbilical, so NO trailer brakes. The first was able to get everything stopped on the shoulder (fawkin HAIRY!). The 2nd started wagging the 3/4ton Suburban like a Yugo (lifting the Subs rear axle off the ground a few times) and ended up pushing the rearend around & jackknifing. Both tow rigs received MASSIVE damage to the rear bumpers & hitches... to the point they had to be left.

The old farts that had seen this happen, used to pour their own lead links to insure it all came loose! OTOH, there were no "break away" boxes back then.

Also saw a pup trailer decouple from a semi. Of course once the airlines came loose, the brakes engaged and it skidded on the jacks off the side of the road
 
Some good suggestions here. I am still scratching my head as to what a 3 foot long chain would be any good for if it were somehow safe (and its not, its scary). I mean you would likely have to attach a winch cable or tow strap to that anyway so that just doesn't seem to make any sense. And reverse trailer safety chains? That makes no sense either. If you are strictly going for the "chain hooked to your wallet" look then it still makes no sense to me but you succeeded. As far as the jack goes, I honestly can't imagine there is any situation where that could possibly be of any help if you were stuck. I suppose if you get a flat on a landscaping trailer or something maybe it could be of some help.

But honestly the way you asked for constructive criticism instead of just getting pissed off is very commendable. It leads to a thread having some useful information for yourself and others so cheers :beer:

oh and just to reiterate what others have already said, buy a tow strap and toss it under the back seat. You would be surprised how many times it will come in handy.
 
I don't think anybody meant to leave them on the jeep for the trailer. Take them off and properly attach them to the tongue of the trailer, then use giganticus hook on the reciever like a normal MAD MAX loving 80's redneck!:lol:
 
iwinuluz said:
i dont plan on snatching anything with these mainly for added security when pulling a rolling payload .
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WARRIORWELDING said:
I don't think anybody meant to leave them on the jeep for the trailer.
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maybe not but i am not totally convinced. I have an idea though, how about getting some extra long mud flaps and holding them up with the chains true madmax style...
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badog said:
iwinuluz,
how do you plan on using that to get you un-stuck? I don't understand...
and why not use a wood bumper rather than a metal bumper?
badog
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i meant stuck with no way to pull off my wheel incase of flat or whatever. not like stuck in mud or whatever.
well guys i have read everyones posts. good stuff.
although i have been researching usage of chains and such and right now safety wise i think the only thing i lack for what i will be using them for i only lack structural strength in the rear bumper brace.
although i was also told that aircraft cable would be good idea aswell.
i think il take the chains off and put MACHINE GUNS IN MY FENDERS

talk amongst yourselfs LOL
 
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