Tennessee Outback steakhouse kicks out uniformed LEO

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Anti Gunners are some of the dumbest folks on the planet.
 
obullfish said:
Outback has been on my shit list for years but this just takes the cake. Would be fine with me if all gun supporters boycott Outback and put them out of business.
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I understand what you're saying, but a misinformed manager who clearly didn't know the corporate policy (of allowing uniformed officers to carry in the restaurant) shouldn't speak for the actions of the entire corporate chain. If Outback had stuck up for the manager and said he was following their policy, I would completely agree with you.

And yes, the lady who was apparently in fear for her life... What can we say; she is obviously brainwashed... Does she think that LEOs are actually "hunting" people (for lack of a better term) in public places without any cause for provocation? Is that what people are actually afraid of?
 
well cross that one off the list
anybody dumb enough to hire a manager that would bow down isn't getting my $
 
Outback used to be a good place to eat.....about a decade or so they went downhill. The last time we were there, about 2 yrs. ago the food sucked and the manager basically scoffed @ my complaints . We left w/o finishing our dinner or paying for it and will never eat there again.
 
mommucked said:
Outback used to be a good place to eat.....about a decade or so they went downhill. The last time we were there, about 2 yrs. ago the food sucked and the manager basically scoffed @ my complaints . We left w/o finishing our dinner or paying for it and will never eat there again.
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Yeah, I can get a medium quality steak, a wedge salad, and some frozen vegetables just about anywhere. I haven't been there in a few years myself, probably since the last time I took Grandma out to lunch (she's moved on to Red Lobster, which has its own special joys).

Of the big chain steak houses, they're the bottom of the list I think. Longhorn, Texas Roadhouse, and Saltgrass all kick the shit out of Outback, and I don't go to any of those either except when I'm travelling.
 
The worst piece of meat I’ve ever tried to eat was at at an outback in East Tennessee. Tried to give them the benefit of the doubt and tried them 2 more times in WNC and came in a close second to the TN location. I’m not one to complain and send my food back because I don’t want my food spit in by the cook. We did let the manager know but 2 out of 3 said oh I’m sorry and went about their way. The only one that seemed to care tried to make it right and covered the meal and brought out 2 steaks that the dog enjoyed when we got home. Their quality of food has definitely went way down hill over the years and the customer service has gotten even worse.
 
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tip: buy complete angus tenderloins on tuesdays from Harris teeter for half price (with my hours, I can't go to a butcher), break them down yourself and have hella good steaks the way you want them for the price of ground beef
sure you freeze them but if thawed and cooked correctly you won't know it

dont tell the Dr but we eat fillet about once a week this way and it doesn't ding the budget, plus the little trimmed pieces that dont make full steaks make for awesome stir fry fodder

If I'm eating out I always try to hunt down local non chain places.
 
All I know they must not be native Tennessee folks.Probably half backs from Fl.If I was in a Unposted restaurant and that happened they would have had to put me in cuffs before I would have left,and then I would have had to think about it.


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We’ve always allowed uniformed law enforcement officers to carry their sidearms while dining with us. A manager made a mistake. We have contacted the guest personally and apologized.


And that's the end of it, far as I'm concerned. Manager did something stupid, corporate fixed it and then some.

I don't eat at Outback because it sucks, but if I did I wouldn't stop going on account of this, because they did the right thing and fixed it. The officer accepted the apology and so should everyone else.
If I was him, I'd go back to the same one on a regular basis, in uniform and carrying just out of spite.

What I'm more concerned about is just how utterly stupid the woman who complained about it is.

"She said police are shooting people, and she could have gotten shot in the parking lot, and the manager had to walked her and her husband to their vehicle,"

Outback should perp walked them out of the restaurant and told them to FOAD.
 
Now working part time in a retail store, I have noticed myself paying more attention to customers that come in open carrying. I did not grow up around guns, but shot rifles and shotguns at Boy Scout camp, and now own a handgun for home defense. I do not carry it to work, mainly because I have to go right from work to pick up my kids at school.

I do now notice things that make me nervous about a lot of open carriers. I've seen people open carry that probably shouldn't. One woman had a small handgun in a rather large holster on her hip and when she went to get something off the floor, the gun slipped out and hit the floor. I've seen one guy open carry, but his outside the belt holster was behind his back, which looked like it would be awkward to reach if needed. I also don't like it when someone keeps checking their sidearm while in my store (had a guy do that, like he kept adjusting it, or making sure it was still there). I honestly don't know my company's policy on employee open carry, mainly because it's not an option for me since I'm heading right to a school and I'm not CCW.

However, I did tell my boss - contrary to company policy - that if I were robbed while I am working the register, I may not comply with the robber and instead will opt to fight if I see a proper opportunity. During my shifts, I keep a bottle of Raid at the counter as though it is a return. Since the policy is to comply with the robber, we are trained to inform the robber that to open the register, we have to complete a sale (I'm not a key holder, so I can't do a No Sale). Having the can of Raid right next to the register makes an easy and convenient item for me to scan in order to open the drawer. Raid has an effective range of about 10 feet (better than pepper spray), stings like a mother if gotten in eyes or even inhaled/ingested. IF and only IF I have an open shot, my plan is to douse said perp, giving me a chance to react. My boss asked me why not just hand over the money? My response is that at the point someone sticks a gun or pulls a knife on me, it's personal. It's not about the money. Anyway, it seems like a good enough plan, one I hope to never have to use, and who knows if I even would be able to if given the instance anyway.
 
ManglerYJ said:
Now working part time in a retail store, I have noticed myself paying more attention to customers that come in open carrying. I did not grow up around guns, but shot rifles and shotguns at Boy Scout camp, and now own a handgun for home defense. I do not carry it to work, mainly because I have to go right from work to pick up my kids at school.

I do now notice things that make me nervous about a lot of open carriers. I've seen people open carry that probably shouldn't. One woman had a small handgun in a rather large holster on her hip and when she went to get something off the floor, the gun slipped out and hit the floor. I've seen one guy open carry, but his outside the belt holster was behind his back, which looked like it would be awkward to reach if needed. I also don't like it when someone keeps checking their sidearm while in my store (had a guy do that, like he kept adjusting it, or making sure it was still there). I honestly don't know my company's policy on employee open carry, mainly because it's not an option for me since I'm heading right to a school and I'm not CCW.

However, I did tell my boss - contrary to company policy - that if I were robbed while I am working the register, I may not comply with the robber and instead will opt to fight if I see a proper opportunity. During my shifts, I keep a bottle of Raid at the counter as though it is a return. Since the policy is to comply with the robber, we are trained to inform the robber that to open the register, we have to complete a sale (I'm not a key holder, so I can't do a No Sale). Having the can of Raid right next to the register makes an easy and convenient item for me to scan in order to open the drawer. Raid has an effective range of about 10 feet (better than pepper spray), stings like a mother if gotten in eyes or even inhaled/ingested. IF and only IF I have an open shot, my plan is to douse said perp, giving me a chance to react. My boss asked me why not just hand over the money? My response is that at the point someone sticks a gun or pulls a knife on me, it's personal. It's not about the money. Anyway, it seems like a good enough plan, one I hope to never have to use, and who knows if I even would be able to if given the instance anyway.
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That's a very bad idea. It's not your money so why possibly get shot or killed over it?............ I would never bring a can of raid to a gunfight.
 
mommucked said:
That's a very bad idea. It's not your money so why possibly get shot or killed over it?............ I would never bring a can of raid to a gunfight.
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I agree, it's a dumb idea and I probably wouldn't have the where-with-all to pull it off, but in my mind, I'd love to have a piece of the guy once the playing field is leveled. Been on my mind a LOT more now that several stores in the Lexington area have been robbed.
 
ManglerYJ said:
Now working part time in a retail store, I have noticed myself paying more attention to customers that come in open carrying. I did not grow up around guns, but shot rifles and shotguns at Boy Scout camp, and now own a handgun for home defense. I do not carry it to work, mainly because I have to go right from work to pick up my kids at school.

I do now notice things that make me nervous about a lot of open carriers. I've seen people open carry that probably shouldn't. One woman had a small handgun in a rather large holster on her hip and when she went to get something off the floor, the gun slipped out and hit the floor. I've seen one guy open carry, but his outside the belt holster was behind his back, which looked like it would be awkward to reach if needed. I also don't like it when someone keeps checking their sidearm while in my store (had a guy do that, like he kept adjusting it, or making sure it was still there). I honestly don't know my company's policy on employee open carry, mainly because it's not an option for me since I'm heading right to a school and I'm not CCW.

However, I did tell my boss - contrary to company policy - that if I were robbed while I am working the register, I may not comply with the robber and instead will opt to fight if I see a proper opportunity. During my shifts, I keep a bottle of Raid at the counter as though it is a return. Since the policy is to comply with the robber, we are trained to inform the robber that to open the register, we have to complete a sale (I'm not a key holder, so I can't do a No Sale). Having the can of Raid right next to the register makes an easy and convenient item for me to scan in order to open the drawer. Raid has an effective range of about 10 feet (better than pepper spray), stings like a mother if gotten in eyes or even inhaled/ingested. IF and only IF I have an open shot, my plan is to douse said perp, giving me a chance to react. My boss asked me why not just hand over the money? My response is that at the point someone sticks a gun or pulls a knife on me, it's personal. It's not about the money. Anyway, it seems like a good enough plan, one I hope to never have to use, and who knows if I even would be able to if given the instance anyway.
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I would also advise against this^^ unless you are fully capable of subduing said perp immediately. Otherwise you risk not only yourself, but anyone else around that they could flail and stab or blindly shoot.
 
ManglerYJ said:
However, I did tell my boss - contrary to company policy - that if I were robbed while I am working the register, I may not comply with the robber and instead will opt to fight if I see a proper opportunity. During my shifts, I keep a bottle of Raid at the counter as though it is a return. Since the policy is to comply with the robber, we are trained to inform the robber that to open the register, we have to complete a sale (I'm not a key holder, so I can't do a No Sale). Having the can of Raid right next to the register makes an easy and convenient item for me to scan in order to open the drawer. Raid has an effective range of about 10 feet (better than pepper spray), stings like a mother if gotten in eyes or even inhaled/ingested. IF and only IF I have an open shot, my plan is to douse said perp, giving me a chance to react. My boss asked me why not just hand over the money? My response is that at the point someone sticks a gun or pulls a knife on me, it's personal. It's not about the money. Anyway, it seems like a good enough plan, one I hope to never have to use, and who knows if I even would be able to if given the instance anyway.
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So I'll be honest. If I were your manager (and thank god I'm not, b/c I would rather slam my junk in a door than have that job) I'd probably warn you that if you told me that again, or I really thought you'd fight, I'd probably fire you.

I'm all for standing up for yourself and the company, but a large retail store where there are other people around is not the place. This basically makes you a liability for the company.
In fact, now that you had this discussion, were something to go down and it didn't work out smoothly in your favor, that manager's ass could be on the line too.
Just food for thought.

(working for a big company is a different, unfortunate world)
 
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