Toyota SAS folks get in here please

ponykilr

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If I were to use this kit on a 94 Toyota pickup http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=TOY-SAS-002
To get a solid axle hung under the truck, what else would I need?

Stock springs with no lift, just the axle under the truck and running/driving. High steer maybe later but cheap for now.

Will the brake lines work?

Will the stock steering connect? Or use steering from the solid axle donor?

Will the stock driveshaft work?

Anything else I am missing?

Is there a better kit than Sky's that does something better?

Would doing rears up front from the get go be better and if so, what kit for that?
 
You will need high steer, your stock steering box can be reused but the steering on the donor truck is worthless to you now. I don't think the stock drives haft will work either. I am not really sure about the brake lines. A lot of people use kids from trail gear. I always liked the AllPro kit.
 
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I have never done a SAS, but from what i have researched;

-you will run into lots of clearance issues trying to do this with no lift. Ex. steering and frame, pittman arm and leafsprings.
-you may have to looking into getting a flat pittman arm if you want to keep it low
- brake lines. Not sure, but they are pretty cheap.
-stock steering will not connect. factory Toyota steering arms are for a push/pull steering box. So hi steer or a crossover steering is neeeded.
-drive shaft will have to be modified, to what extent i don't know.
-rears up front or trailgear/ allpro springs from the get go. The same kit will work for either of them. It just depends on your hanger and shackle placement.


I know there are people here with lots more info that will chime in.
 
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You need highsteer
If you do ruf probably need a steering box relocation kit
To keep it low flat pitman arm
Brake lines there is some nissan lines that work as extenders for cheap
drive shaft will need to be extended
 
call this dude: Landon Beard (828) 312-2108 and pick his brain. He's got some sweet older build threads on here. His attention has been diverted from 4x4's for a few years now, but he's a toy genius. He's done numerous straight axle yota's. I work with him daily, I'll give him a heads up about the inquire in the morn If I can remember:p. He has a system that flat works and drives very well. Call me also at (828) 217-3994, I got your pm....
 
I think unless you are running around a 3" spring, highsteer gets pretty tight. RUF are great for firewall clearance but you will have to move the steering box forward.

IMO, every off the shelf SAS kit regardless of what spring set you get sits way to tall. Everyone says you have to break the springs in. With what? I've had to pull numerous leafs out just to get an acceptable ride height. Sure they flex like crazy but you need a ladder to get in the truck. Again, my opinion but if I were building another SAS truck I would french the front hanger in and get a slider for the rear spring mount to keep the mounts as high up in the frame as possible. Then go with the lowest lift spring possible.

Of course all of that is making the best of the 4wd frame. A 2wd is tit because it has a lower section height and more arch to the front. It is damn near exactly like the pre-85 frames. Those work awesome with the SAS kits and stock springs.

Also, don't use the off the shelf tubes for the shackle. Most (except for Davez I believe) have no bushing sleeve and they tend to eat them up pretty quick. All this shit no one tells you about when buying kits.
 
Thanks Skinny. If I do one, I want it pretty low on 33s probably. Trouble seems to be finding the right trk.

I would buy one already done but they seem to be rare these days in driver condition. I am not wanting a buggy.
 
How often do you plan on wheeling it? The ifs isn't going to be that bad if you do a small lift and put good shocks on it. On the other hand I've been helping do a solid axle swap on a 86 4runner with 3in lift up front its pretty tight
 
I'm trying to do a sping-under first gen. I'm using some kind of all-pro lift springs (truck was running 38's in SOA configuration) and a full-size jeep dana44 (already has SUA pads). The axle was originally narrowed 4" to fit under a CJ, so we just had to tweak the spring pads to fit the toyota. It's currently sitting on 33's, I am having clearance issues with the steering, and I do not have an engine in yet but am sure that oil pan clearance will be another issue. My tire size goal is 35-37" using these springs and whatever cutting is necessary.

Also, was originally a 2wd truck.

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