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Discussion in 'Tow Rigs and Trailers' started by CLRracer, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. NCJeeplover

    NCJeeplover Well-Known Member

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    I know my opinion differs from alot of people on here, but once I pulled a deckover that's all I wanted. I LOVE a deckover trailer. Like you, I've never felt felt the higher center of gravity on one either.
     
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  2. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    May have something to do with the vehicle you drive too. A dually hides a lot of faults in a trailer because it absorbs more and you’re used to riding rough anyway. Hook that same trailer to a half ton or even a lifted truck on mud tires and it’s a whole different animal.
     
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  3. NCJeeplover

    NCJeeplover Well-Known Member

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    On another note; am I the only one who thinks trailer manufactures try to screw you on tires? They put the cheapest crap tires on there and charge you an arm and a leg to upgrade. Thats a $150 tire on a $50 wheel and there getting almost 300 bucks for it!
     
  4. GLTHFJ60

    GLTHFJ60 Well-Known Member

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    Of course the tow rig has something to do with it. My deckover tows better than the car hauler with removable fenders I had before, and I don't have to crawl around on the trailer deck to hook up straps. That's a win-win in my book. I do have a dually tow rig, so you are right, it's a lot of truck. That being said, it always drives much smoother with a trailer/load than it does empty, so despite a big truck, it's not like I'm sacrificing anything by having a deckover.
     
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  5. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

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    One major advantage of a deckover is the narrower trackwidth keeps the tires between the lines and out of the potholes that occur at the side of the road.
     
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  6. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    I hope you’re kidding...
     
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  7. Stuntman Autoworks

    Stuntman Autoworks Instigator of things

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    All I know is one day I had to move about8 pieces of different equipment around and after having to lift and lower 3 ramps and move for different widths me and my back had had enough. The next week I found my tilt on craigslist and went and bought it. It would be worth it even if it had been twice the price.

    Just my .02
     
  8. YotaOnRocks

    YotaOnRocks Well-Known Member

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    I want a pj with the power tail but am reading a lot of negative on pj quality as of lately.
     
  9. Stuntman Autoworks

    Stuntman Autoworks Instigator of things

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    A hydraulic dove would be nice also
     
  10. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    I’ve owned 2 PJ’s and had zero issues. Don’t currently own one, but I’m curious to know what you’re reading.
     
  11. YotaOnRocks

    YotaOnRocks Well-Known Member

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    I've read several times that big tex bought them and they are powder coating over already rusted steel. Mostly paint issues ive been reading about with a few wiring complaints.
     
  12. YotaOnRocks

    YotaOnRocks Well-Known Member

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    Only thing about hydraulic dove is the low carrying capacity of the dove. Most will lift 10k but you can only haul 3-4k on it. I like the power tail. Its quick and simple.
     
  13. Stuntman Autoworks

    Stuntman Autoworks Instigator of things

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    I thought thats what you meant by power tail. What is a power tail? I've never seen one described that way.

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    I googled it and found its what PJ calls a set of hydraulic ramps essentially.
     
  14. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

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    Why would I be kidding? They have a slightly narrower track width that is easier to keep on the pavement on narrow country roads. At least the PJ T8 that I've used before did.
     
  15. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    I’m gonna throw the ol BS flag on you there. Current PJ site lists the same axle options on multiple trailers. Deckover or tilt. IMHO, the only way you’ll get a different track width is with different axle manufacturers.
     
  16. GLTHFJ60

    GLTHFJ60 Well-Known Member

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    Why are you throwing the BS flag on him?

    Think about it. 83" wide deck car hauler puts the track width of the trailer tires pretty close to 102". My last carhauler was just as wide, if not a touch wider, than my dually. The track width on my deckover axles is easily 10" narrower than that. The deck on my dually's flatbed and on my deckover is now the same, but the track width of my dually is much wider than the trailer.

    If your truck wanders a bit due to ruts/crown with a carhauler then it's pretty easy for the trailer tires to get onto (or over) the white line, where there can be more hazards. Much less of an issue with a narrower axle. I think jeepinmatt is right. I've observed the same thing.
     
  17. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    I’ll admit I’ve never owned a deckover, but the few I’ve looked at on trailer yards had the same width axles as the equipment trailers. The only thing that changed was the deck width when you got above the tires. I’m open to further education if y’all wanna provide it.
     
  18. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

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    Somebody better call Dexter and tell him to stop offering multiple widths!
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  19. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

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    Most car trailer style trailers have a 7-ft wide deck plus an inch a half on each side for clearance plus 7 in roughly for each tire. That equals 101 in. and of course the tire clearance may be a little more or less and the tires may be a little more or less but that's just a general ballpark number. Now consider a deck over trailer is generally 102-in wide, and the tires are tucked in at least three or four inches on each side. so in that case you're looking at about a 96-in track width versus 101-102. And some or even narrower than that. Once you factor in a rub rail plus the channel for the frame plus clearance for the tires you may be looking at 6-8 in per side, and a track width of 86-90".
     
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  20. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    I know they make different width trailers and therefore different width axles. Let’s focus on apples to apples for now. So what I’m seeing on PJ’s site right now is your T8 listed with a 96” deck width in its “stock” form. Under notes, it says 8K axles REQUIRE 102” option. This leads me to believe your track width goes up to accommodate the weight. So my question is; does the track width only stay narrow for lower weight axles?

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  21. GLTHFJ60

    GLTHFJ60 Well-Known Member

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    Where in that website does it list track width? The two parameters you highlighted are deck width.
     
  22. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    It doesn’t list track width. I’m pointing out the trailer Matt referenced earlier is already narrower than 102” and has notes requiring a wider deck to accommodate heavier axles. I’m prodding him to think back and tell me exactly how wide his trailer really was.
     
  23. YotaOnRocks

    YotaOnRocks Well-Known Member

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    I would add a couple d rings to the trailer. I had times with my trailer that i would run the winch through a snatch block at the rear to pull something i couldn't get a straight line to.
     
  24. Stuntman Autoworks

    Stuntman Autoworks Instigator of things

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    The frame is the same on both but on the heavier axles the brakes are a little wider the rim backspacing is different and the tires probably a little wider so in order to keep the same frame for both axle options the deck above must be wider to keep the tire from connecting the outer c- channel
     
  25. BigSouth

    BigSouth Doesn't play well with others!

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    I just need to make a date with YouTube and watch some videos. I always assumed the deckover trailer shared the same deck frame as the standard trailer. That steel plate above the tires just filled the void where a fender would have gone.
     

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