transmission issues again?

bootsyj

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I have a 94 yj with an 3 speed auto w/lock up converter . Trans went out on me december of 2010. Just stopped pullinwhile I was driving. I did notice for months before it happened that if I let it sit for 4 or 5 days in between driving. That when i first started the engine, and pulled it into gear, it felt like It was slipping the clutches. after about 5 to 10 seconds it was fine. Also sometimes it would slip as it shifted into 2nd gear, just breifly. then without any noise, it just quit pulling. I had the trans completely rebuilt. new clucth kit, new front pump, new convertor. Now after about 9 months later it started with the same symtoms. it is still pulling fine just like before . ALL fluid levels are fine just as before. got me scractchin my head. I have only put about 5000 miles on it, sinse the rebuild. Any sugestions or any one else ever see this.
 
Lee,would I have the same check valve in my 01 wrangler?If so with the ticker at 183,000miles and just servicing the tranny for the third time,does it need to be replaced?
 
jimmy, i really don't know if they are still using them or not.
the only way to tell for sure is to check the lines and see if it has one.
maybe jody will be able to answer this for you. if you have one, i would replace it. the reason they put it in there is so the converter doesn't leak back. (so you can start it and drive without waiting for the converter to fill back up)
 
The valves have been removed on both my Dodge and ZJ. All I have to do is start the motor, then put on my seat belt and both are ready to drive. It's better to not have them and wait a few seconds than have them fail and kill the transmission.
 
Lee, I don't think they don't use them on the 32's. (I only post this since you mentioned it).
Kinda weird since every other Torqueflight and RE series tranny does.
 
i wasn't sure if they used them on the 3 speeds. i do know there was a service bulletin for them if there was a complaint of delay.




NO: 21-08-94

GROUP: Transmission

DATE: Apr. 29, 1994

SUBJECT:
Delayed Transmission Engagement/Torque Convertor Drain Back

MODELS:

1990 - 1994 (AB) Ram Van/Ram Wagon
1990 - 1993 (AD) Ram Pickup, Ram Chassis Cab
1990 - 1994 (AN) Dakota/Dakota Chassis Cab
1994 (BR) Ram Truck
1990 - 1994 (XJ) Cherokee/Wagoneer
1990 - 1994 (YJ) Wrangler
1993 - 1994 (ZJ) Grand Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer

NOTE:
THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS. THIS BULLETIN DOES NOT APPLY TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE 8.0L V10 GASOLINE OR CUMMINS DIESEL ENGINES.

SYMPTOM/CONDITION:

Delayed transmission engagement of 2 to 8 seconds at driveway start up. Most noticeable after the vehicle has been parked for an extended period.

DIAGNOSIS:

Using the Mopar Diagnostic System or the Scan Tool (DRB II or III) with appropriate diagnostic procedure manual, verify that all engine systems are functioning as designed. If Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC's) are present, record them on the repair order for future reference, and repair as necessary. If no codes are present and all systems are functioning correctly, check the transmission fluid level following the procedures outlined in the appropriate service manual. If the fluid level is correct proceed with the following repair.

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PARTS REQUIRED:

REPAIR PROCEDURE:

This repair involves installing a drainback relief valve in the transmission oil cooler pressure line.

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1. Using the appropriate service manual, locate and identify the transmission oil cooler pressure line (Figure 1 shows a typical transmission cooler hose arrangement).

CAUTION:
IT IS MANDATORY THAT THE TRANSMISSION OIL COOLER PRESSURE LINE BE USED AS TRANSMISSION FAILURE WILL RESULT IF THE WRONG LINE IS CHOSEN.

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2. Cut the pressure line next to the rubber hose crimp (Refer to Figure 2).

3. Cut the metal section of the pressure line next to the bead in the line (Refer to Figure 2).

4. Install the 3/8" tube nut and sleeve onto the cut end of metal line.

NOTE:
SOME VEHICLES MAY HAVE A BLACK EPOXY COATING ON THE PRESSURE LINE. THIS COATING MUST BE REMOVED TO ALLOW THE TUBE NUT AND SLEEVE TO FIT ONTO THE LINE.

5. Install the drainback relief valve onto the metal line and tighten the tube nut/sleeve.

6. Install the rubber hose onto the drainback relief valve using the hose clamp to secure the valve in place. Tighten the hose clamp to 1 N-m (10 in.lbs.) torque.

NOTE:
THE DRAINBACK RELIEF VALVE IS IDENTIFIED WITH AN ARROW TO SHOW DIRECTION OF FLUID FLOW. INSTALL THE VALVE WITH THE ARROW POINTING TOWARDS THE TRANS. COOLER.

7. Using the quick connect removal tool, disconnect the return line connection at the transmission cooler (Figure 1).

8. Start the vehicle, place the gear selector in neutral and check for a steady flow of transmission fluid out of the return line. If no flow exists, the valve has been installed in the return line in error. Start at step 1 and repeat the installation procedure.

9. Connect the return line into the transmission. Make sure the line snaps into the fitting.

10. Remove any oil from the hose and valve. Start the vehicle and check for any leaks. Tighten the hose clamp and tube nut as required.

NOTE:
IF ANY TRANSMISSION MALFUNCTION CONTAMINATES THE FLUID, THE COOLER AND LINES MUST BE REVERSED FLUSHED THOROUGHLY. ON VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE DRAINBACK RELIEF VALVE, THE VALVE MUST BE REMOVED AND DISCARDED BEFORE FLUSHING. REPLACE THE VALVE WITH A NEW ONE AFTER ALL REPAIRS ARE COMPLETED.

POLICY:
Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.

TIME ALLOWANCE:
Labor Operation No. 21-25-10-90 0.5 Hrs.

FAILURE CODE: 53 - Improper Pressure
 
thanks for the information, as I do not want to lose another tranny due to this. seems it a deale r item aslo. go figure.
 
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