RufusTheRam
New Member
- Joined
- Mar 21, 2005
- Location
- Raleigh
i hope you and your club (triad nightcrawlers) have changed your trail manners/activities in recent years.
It's even worse when EVERYONE involved in something gets slapped with the same crummy label that was only earned by a few.it's not good for anyone in the sport when certain groups are labeled.
What's really needed is for people who AREN'T involved in the sport to be able to distinguish members of the organized clubs from the flying rednecks. And that's lots easier said than done, ain't it?i believe organized clubs and their members have to be held to a higher standard than your average ignorant redneck flying through the woods.
no, not referring to that at all... i wasn't there for labor day. as i've mentioned more than once, the last time me myself personally witnessed anything wrong from this club was a little more than a year ago probably, which is why i keep saying "i hope things have changed". general public awareness of these types of issues was minimal then. i've heard numerous other stories about this group through the grapevine, but we all know how that goes.So are you refering to the event where the Jeep flipped at URE over the labor day? I was there during that run and did not see him drinking during the run. I'm just trying to see what events during that particular weekend should be called into question.
what are you jumping down his throat for? he never claimed to be super involved in anything, he made a couple of valid comments imo, especially about we need to present a positive image to people NOT involved in the sport.look trebisky, i sure havent seen jack about you going wheeling, so i dont understand how you are "part of the sport".
you know what, on that note i'm sick and tired of people like you who've had a running rig for a few months maybe, been to a handfull of decent places, jumping on their high horse like they're king off roader. you haven't even been driving anything enough years to talk the shit you do, and you sure as hell haven't been 4 wheeling anything long enough. this sport isn't about who's the coolest, who knows the most people, or any of that crap. it's not about putting people down, it's not a damn popularity contest. lose the high school mentality, i assume you've graduated by now.im sick and tired of people saything that this and that will give the sport a bad name, calling out individuals for the action of a club and the like. if you have a problem with an organization say somthing about it to all of them
that's exactly what's happened here... a public reference has been made to anyone and everyone on the board to give them the oppurtunity to clear things up. i'm not blaming mike for anything directly unless he's been involved, but if he's taken the responsibility to be in this club then he is responsible for everyone in the club's actions, just as they are for his.if you have a problem with an organization say somthing about it to all of them, not blame mike for what his club does.
oh, so people have to actually 4 wheel to care about the environment or use of public land that THEIR tax dollars pay for? come on. we need all the help we can get, from web wheelers to the most extreme comp guys.half of this damn board is webwheelers anyway, i dont know why most of you give a flying about what happens to the sport seeing as you dont actually wheel
that's pretty funny...and it's not really worth the time to figure the plot out Larry....Rob said:Shoot Larry, I can't keep up with the plot. But then I'm a web wheeler now. At least until my jeeps fixed.
BIGWOODY said:The hairpin turn on Daniel where everyone I've ever seen drives up the little verticle hill to back up and turn around is where it happened..to far up the hill and over backwards.
i agree. the couple of times i've been within range of speaking to them, i've made reference to they may want to careful about what they're doing. not only for the greater good of the 4 wheeling image, but for legal reasons to them personally. if i hadn't had "the set" to say something to them in person, i wouldn't be posting in this thread. unfortunately, some people don't respond to kindness and need a public calling out to keep them in line. judging from HardTaco's pic, things haven't changed unfortunately.I have "a set" and will walk up and ask them to please stop and explain my position...next time you see it..him or anyone..say something to them, like training a dog..correct them on the spot and explain why..you don't have to be a jackass about it..kill them with kindness.
same here... i prefer to just stick with my group of 1-2 other trucks that i've been riding with for years and keep out of all the politics. i've met a few cool people on the board, but outside of any real 4 wheeling.I wheel quite a bit, year round, I have only met three of you posting in this thread on a trail.