Warn M8000 solenoid question

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Which solenoids on an M8000 control the cable in function?
 
Just forget about it. Order a Superwinch contactor and replace the entire solenoid group with it. Costs about $100 from Summit.

But to answer your question, I believe all four solenoids have to be functioning properly. The solenoids that remain closed during a given operation are still providing a current path on their closed contacts. Need a meter to verify continuity.
 
8274 schematic.jpg


Help?

This is a 8274 schematic, but I believe they are the same.

Look at solenoids 2 and 3
 
RKBJR said:
Which solenoids on an M8000 control the cable in function?
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RK A buddy has been through this and he is very good with electrical. Ill call him.

**edit**If that diagram above doesnt do it.
 
shawn said:
Just forget about it. Order a Superwinch contactor and replace the entire solenoid group with it. Costs about $100 from Summit.

But to answer your question, I believe all four solenoids have to be functioning properly. The solenoids that remain closed during a given operation are still providing a current path on their closed contacts. Need a meter to verify continuity.
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Part #?
 
I think Warn uses this contactor, as well, on the VR series. As does Smittybilt, and I imagine they are all made by the same Chinese people. :D

This the Warn 89564 contactor. seen em for $23.00 to $75.00!

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My 0.02...I have always prefered the solenoids cuz you can run to the parts store when you are out for a weekend and repair them!
 
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I'm pretty sure this is the one I have:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/spw-90-14452/overview/

The one that ol'Jeeps posted is for an ATV winch. The one that Warn puts on the 9.5 and the other "full size" winches is like $250. Although, Warn has previously stated that theirs are manufactured by Albright, so maybe that's worth something extra to you.

My contactor is currently 2yrs old. It's better sealed than a solenoid, and it's designed to fail in the open position, so no worries about contacts seizing and causing a run-on condition, as can happen with solenoids.
 
ol'Jeeps said:
yep, sorry. looks like Warn only sella the comlete power pac...260.00!

Im sure super winch or or smittybuilt would work
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Yeah, one of the Warn ones looked like a pretty good deal. It came with all of the power leads. If you've got to buy all three motor leads and the battery leads separately, it gets spendy. But then I realized you still needed to buy the "new style" winch controller, and that added another $50. So you were still talking about $300.

I guess it just depends on what you have to work with -- buy an old winch with corroded wires, bad solenoids, and a missing remote, it's probably a good way to go.
 
Also...the warn contactor uses three coils internally, one is a "power on" permissive and the other two do the power in/out functions. The Superwinch is only a two coil design, making it smaller but also lacking the extra layer of power control.

All contactors/solenoids can weld contacts under the right conditions. It is a myth that the newer "contactors" will always fail open. I worked on industrial electrical contactors for a living, I have seen "big stuff" weld up.

All that being said, I bought the same Superwinch contactor unit for my 8274 and was glad to finally pitch those stupid solenoids in the trash!
 
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