welder/plasma cutter opinions

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I am looking at purchasing a welder and plasma cutter and need some opinions. I have narrowed it down to Esab 203 welder and 380 plasma cutter or Hobart handler or ironman 210 welder and airforce 400 plasma cutter. Thus far these seem to fit my needs and then some for the money. Any thoughts would be welcome
 
I am just using it for personal use, low duty cycle. I only plan on needing at most 3/8 on a single pass. I have pretty much narrowed the specs down, I am looking for opinions on the equipment itself. A Millermatic 212 or Lincoln 215 would also work but several hundred more. I am still learning to weld but getting better still a novice.
 
i love my hobart handler 210. gun and internal parts have "miller" stamped on them. believe miller makes hobart- good enough for me! i never cared for lincoln, dont know why, just couldent ever get one to weld as good and smooth as a miller. im sure youll have others on here tht swear by the red, thogh. i always prefer blue. my $ 0.02
 
Any of them will be decent. Check the price on consumables as some plasma consumables are pricey and others are really affordable.

I've always liked Lincoln, even better than the miller, I've had better luck setting it up and welding with the Lincoln's than with the Millers, but maybe its just me...
 
I've had experience with Lincoln, Miller Esab, and Thermal Dynamics. Spend the money, get Miller. If it were a smoking deal on a used Linc or Hobart, it might be worth it, but if you're buying new, get the best thing you can possibly afford. You'll thank yourself later. Yeah, Miller's products seem to work better out of the box. They set up easier and do seem to control an arc better than the other big players. Where the justification in price difference comes in, IMO, is customer service. Having PERSONALLY dealt with Esab's FACTORY SERVICE FACILITY, not a "certified warranty shop", let me tell you, they're idiots. They ignored a five paragraph problem description I sent in with a high-dollar MIG welder. They kept the thing for two weeks before calling to tell me they couldn't find a problem. I asked the tech what he had done, and if he had followed my description. "What description?" Ugh. I walked him through it on the phone, but never got the feeling he heard me. Two weeks later, I find out it's shipped back to National, not us as we requested. I had to personally pick it up. Was there a description of the actions taken? No. Was it fixed? Of course not! Will I ever endorse Esab? Not on your life! Lincoln is slow, but better. A lot of their products are made overseas now, though. Miller is just head and shoulders above the rest, and I don't know why anyone would look elsewhere.
 
I have a miller 210 and love it (upgraded from a hobart 175). I also had a HTP 380 plasma cutter. I sold that and got the new one made by Parker metal works. It was the one on pirate 4x4 that everyone was raving about. Its a 40 amp model but I paid extra for them to turbo it up to 50 amps. Great little unit and very reasonably priced.
 
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