welding spiders

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88yota

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thinking about welding the spiders on my dd toyota pickup that is used for some hunting trail riding. Will this tear stuff up driving on the road? is it suggested?
 
Depends. It will put a lot more stress on all of the rear drive line components as well as accelerate tire wear. That said, I drive my ZJ with a welded rear end on the street regularly.
 
I have a 1975 cj5 that I'm thinking of welding the front and rear. My question is will a 110v welder have enough heat to get the job done or do I need to drag the jeep to a stick welder? Does any one have some pics of the spider gears before and after they have been welded?
 
id use a stick welder and if you weld the front its gonna be a pain turnin unless you leave the hubs unlocked till you needed them locked
 
I was planning on a twin stick transfer shifter. Anything you would recommend doing before welding them up?
 
mmcj7 said:
I was planning on a twin stick transfer shifter. Anything you would recommend doing before welding them up?
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just clean them real good and weld everything good spiders to the carier and to the side gears weld everything, i done mine and havent had a problem so far
 
mmcj7 said:
I have a 1975 cj5 that I'm thinking of welding the front and rear. My question is will a 110v welder have enough heat to get the job done or do I need to drag the jeep to a stick welder? Does any one have some pics of the spider gears before and after they have been welded?
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idk if it is stock wheelbase, but if so, even with the hubs unlocked and in 2wd it doesnt want to turn on anything but pavement, with a welded rear... use the bigger welder
 
if i weld the spiders now and re-gear later down the road can i add a locker and do away with the welded spiders?
 
Not if welded to the carrier. And if you don't weld them to the carrier they will prob break.
 
GotWood said:
Not if welded to the carrier. And if you don't weld them to the carrier they will prob break.
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Ditto - buuuut - are we talking stock 4:10 3rds? If so those things are a dime a dozen. Weld away, if ya don't like it or break one, it's easily replacable.
If 5.29s or something, that's a different story.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Ditto - buuuut - are we talking stock 4:10 3rds? If so those things are a dime a dozen. Weld away, if ya don't like it or break one, it's easily replacable.
If 5.29s or something, that's a different story.
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yeah they are 4.10's, thats a good point thanks for the advise
 
I cut a little piece of metal to go inbetween all of them. and weld all 4 corners to the spiders all the way around. spin it around and do the other side essentially creating a box out of them. I haven't ever broken a set i welded like this.
 
I wouldn't be scared to weld spiders with a 110 welder......AS Long as you can weld.....You should be fine.
 
another option is to pick two teeth on a spider gear, weld the gap in between them with a stick welder and a 1311 (i think) rod. do the same to the opposite side of the gear so you weld twice on one gear. do the same to the other gear.

this will allow the tires to turn freely for a few rotations, then lock in. i ran this set up for a few years, never had any problems. only down side i see would be spinning and then the gears hitting hard, which i did plenty of times. i thought it would wear the welds down, but after the few years (2 to 3), i pulled the third and checked. they weren't wore bad at all.

probably not the best option, but it's cheap and easy. it might help the wear on the tires, but still be locked when you need it.
 
well i have just about got my self talked into welding them, the only thing holding me back is tire wear since i just bought them. but i guess if you want to play you got to pay
 
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