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Hamm shocked that is ok. Beat the .gov at their own game, I'm sure there are some ESA concerns here. What if they kill an endangered species.
 
So tellico is closed because we "killed" trout but the us gov can set poison bombs randomly in the wild to kill anything that disturbs it? Makes sense to me.
 
So in no way am I defending the USDA or the use of these but it sounds like the USDA contracted the work out and the trapper didn't fallow the rules

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Loganwayne said:
So in no way am I defending the USDA or the use of these but it sounds like the USDA contracted the work out and the trapper didn't fallow the rules

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RatLabGuy said:
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I see why they thought this would be a good idea if done correctly but obviously it didn't get done right.

The USDA usually does pretty extensive research and risk evaluations before doing a project like that. They are working on a project in the southeast right now to end rabies in the us. Shooting vaccines outta plans in rural areas of NC Tennessee Georgia SC as a starting point.

They also pay guys in the Midwest to fly everyday and shoot coyotes outta the planes

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The thing is, there are a lot of ways to make this more safe for pets, or at least for animals traveling with humans.
For example, put the pressure sensor on a time so it has to be f$cked with for a minimum of 3 minutes or something. That would at least leave time for the pet owner to see their animal messing with it and say, "hey leave that alone" and get them away in time, while the wild Coyote wouldn't know better and keep at it.

Or even just put an audible warning speaker "This will spray toxic fumes in 10... 9... 8..."
 
Poison landmines has to be the worst idea ever. To much possibility to kill unintended animals and people. I will not take it well if I see one of these near my house.
 
RatLabGuy said:
The thing is, there are a lot of ways to make this more safe for pets, or at least for animals traveling with humans.
For example, put the pressure sensor on a time so it has to be f$cked with for a minimum of 3 minutes or something. That would at least leave time for the pet owner to see their animal messing with it and say, "hey leave that alone" and get them away in time, while the wild Coyote wouldn't know better and keep at it.

Or even just put an audible warning speaker "This will spray toxic fumes in 10... 9... 8..."
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Coyotes are really cautious animals. We set up trail cameras on a bunch of different foot hold traps a couple years ago. They had coyotes at them nearly every night but sometimes it took two weeks before they would actually go to the bait hole and get trapped. They would touch it realize somethings up and peace out

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This is a horse shit idea of a way to manage animal control. It's random, it doesn't target anything. It's no different than shooting blindfolded.

You want animal control, you offer X number of tags for a small fee ($5) and when you bring the dead animal back with a bullet hole & your tag, you get a monetary reward, say $25, whatever it is.

You don't set poisonous traps that anyone or thing can stumble across. That's just idiotic.
 
I believe it was Alleghany County where I heard they'd had the bright idea to bring in a half dozen red wolves to deal with the coyote problem. Local farmers had shot most of them the first day because, although the coyotes were pests, the wolves were going to be the ones taking down calves.

Paper sense is not common sense.
 
trailhugger said:
I believe it was Alleghany County where I heard they'd had the bright idea to bring in a half dozen red wolves to deal with the coyote problem. Local farmers had shot most of them the first day because, although the coyotes were pests, the wolves were going to be the ones taking down calves.

Paper sense is not common sense.
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I don't know why she swallowed the fly....
 
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