What year is this jeep?

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I am considering buying this jeep, but the owner has no title. I want to at least run the vin to make sure it not stolen. The problem is he doesn't know what year it is or where the vin is located. He bought it built without a title. What year range is the tub? Where is the vin supposed to be?

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Could be many years. If it is the CJ7 tub and grill you have between 76-86. 7s remained pretty constant. They did go widetrack axles in 83 i think, and those axles look to be long gone. Unless you can get a vIn you probably will have a hard time dating it.
 
Def not a CJ-5, if it's a Cj then it is a 7. Grill is looking like a TJ though. Would need closer pic of dash.
Vin plate on a CJ is on drivers side firewall.near the master
 
looked closer
Dash looks like a CJ, But not a CJ column,
I'd say it's a Heinze 57 to say the least
Also another thing that says CJ, is the amount the springs have had to be out boarded on the front. YJ and TJ frames are wider
 
It's a CJ type dash(flat)
does the Jeep on the side have the e's with the center stamped? or does it look more like Joop?
 
A lot of vehicles vin number is stamped on the passenger frame rail near the front tire on the outside of the frame, check there, might need some sandpaper and a flashlight to shine on the frame in line with the frame instead of directly at the frame(creating shadows in the stamping). Let me know if this works, just curious. Found them this way on everything from 63 Dodge pickups to FJ40 Toyotas!
 
to be honest I don't know LOL I know ealier Jeeps said Jeep, the later ones had stickers to make it say Jeep, but the stamps wore out and they never replaced them
 
i'm gonna go with a CJ-7..... biggest thing i notice is the hood and grill. with the hood, where it turns down to the fenders, the CJ is way more rounded than a TJ or YJ....
 
grill is definitely CJ. TJ's had no space for the turn signals up front and did not have that type of curve.
 
That's a CJ-7 (or CJ-8 Scrambler). CJ-7 was made 76-86, CJ-8 were 81-84. Ino way its a CJ-5, the rear door opening is too big.
Older CJ-7s had a sticker with VIN on the dash below or above the headlight switch, to the left of the steering column.
I thikn the tranny tunnel hole is different for 76-79. Rollbar is too, but that area looks MIA in the pics. The tooling for Jeep stamping along the cowl wore out in the early 80s I think.
Inner fenders were different for wide/narrow track axles, to clear the taller shock nounts with widetrack axles. Its possible the grill might have a sticker on it with emission info, year of manufacture, etc.
 
What do we win if we guess the year? :lol:
 
upnover said:
to be honest I don't know LOL I know ealier Jeeps said Jeep, the later ones had stickers to make it say Jeep, but the stamps wore out and they never replaced them
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If I remember correctly it's during the 1983 model year that the tubs started reading Joop. It's definitely a CJ-7. If the embossed part of the tub says Jeep it's between 76-83; if it looks more like Joop, it's 83-86.
 
cj777 said:
If I remember correctly it's during the 1983 model year that the tubs started reading Joop. It's definitely a CJ-7. If the embossed part of the tub says Jeep it's between 76-83; if it looks more like Joop, it's 83-86.
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It's joop and vin plate area on firewall was cut off. Probably bought from junkyard and they kept the vin. The bed is welded to the passgender side wheel well frame.
 
Since it's Joop, it could be a YJ with a CJ nose! Or a YJ tub on a CJ7. The frame numbers will only identify what year the frame is. There is no way, even with number tags and frame stamps, of establishing a year of anything so molested.

just out of curiosity...
there is so little of 'Jeep' left, why does the year matter? (EDIT: I just saw why! I would just get a bill of sale, then find a title and vin plate)

...cuz, here's a pic of my '1962 Universal! (yes...vin plate, titled, tagged and insured and there are no frame stampings!)
 

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cool looking cage tho
 
could be a YJ tub, check the top of the cowl for CJ defrost ductcutouts that originally went into the windshield. Looks like the body mounts that are different between CJ/YJ are gone. YJ tub is galvanized steel, CJ is not.
 
I'd look at the top of the wheel wells, early CJ7's (70's) had a roll bar that mounted there on an angle iron looking piece. (80's) and up the roll bar forward legs came down and mounted at the base of the front seats and the kicker was almost at the back of the inner fenderwell top. Not sure of the exact year, just decade of the change. Tall shock towers are later years but they are gone, bolt on 80's, welded on 70's - look for marks/holes. I think 80's and wide tracks had sway bars - you could look for the mount holes (not sure on that one). The bodys had different door mounts for hard doors but they look all gone. Later Jeeps had a stiffner in this area if I remember right.

The vin was pop rivited to a plate bolted under the wiper motor - long gone I bet.

If you had a shot of the fuse block I could get you closer - still have some old factory service manuals somewhere.
 
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