Where are the employees?

93redzj said:
I think it’s a well known, and agreed with, fact, that teachers get paid squat. I once dated a girl that had her bachelors and was attending classes for her masters in education, a current teacher, knowing good and well the potential salary that awaited her. I think it just goes back to what @RatLabGuy was saying, it’s about passion. That’s what she wanted to do regardless of pay.
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Yeah…teaching is one of those ‘noble’ jobs I was referencing too. Number of days actually worked vs other jobs and amount invested into your day to day, I won’t get in to…but the public school system operates like most other business units…the ones with the most drive that are the most qualified, tend to rise to the highest paying jobs. Now expand that to private schools, you’re talking legit $50-100k salaries for teachers…even in the great old state of ‘North we don’t wanna pay our teachers Carolina’.
 
1-tonmudder said:
They were tired from all the chicken chokin.
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Man if I'd known when i was a teenager you could get paid for choking the chicken I'd probably have a different career path
 
jeepinmatt said:
A fact that is always intentionally omitted in the "we don't make enough" discussions.
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Ain’t that the truth. Teaching does have some solid upsides. The schedule is one of them. No holidays, no weekends, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Spring break, and Summer! No working in the cold. No days off for rain. (Snow days are nice too!) We don’t complain about the good parts.

There is so much more to a job than the dollar figure at the end. It’s important no doubt. But, not everything.
 
jeepinmatt said:
A fact that is always intentionally omitted in the "we don't make enough" discussions.
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When my wife decided to leave a full time job at the local hospital and go to work for Davie County Schools, she spoke with a couple teacher friends of ours who reminded us of that fact when determining if their pay was going to be enough for us. We had to set up a fund through our bank (State Employee's Credit Union to take her pay and hold back a certain portion so that we would have income during those summer months. Sounds simple, but it's actually kinda complex. Even still, she works a side hustle providing tele-therapy in Guam. That provides us with our Disney money.
 
jeepinmatt said:
A fact that is always intentionally omitted in the "we don't make enough" discussions.
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If your smart you never ever bring that up. Mine has taught so long my normal jobs with abundant overtime was just as much a problem. Teachers and the schedules are so warped they eventually can't relate or grasp the concept of being tired to the point of just not doing anything productive. If you speak of "banker hours" and metal health days.............run.
 
ManglerYJ said:
We had to set up a fund through our bank (State Employee's Credit Union to take her pay and hold back a certain portion so that we would have income during those summer months. Sounds simple, but it's actually kinda complex. Even still, she works a side hustle providing tele-therapy in Guam. That provides us with our Disney money.
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thats odd. When my wife started teaching in '99 in Forsyth Co they immediately asked if she wanted 10 month or 12 month pay, the only difference being that they handle the division over 12 months. Zero work on our part.

Aside - both she and I are now paid biweekly, 26x a year. Since all our bills are monthly, we set up a separate savings account that the paychecks go into, then 1x a month we get an auto transfer into checking for "spending money". This also makes it easier to have extra cahs from raises etc accumulate instead of getting spent.
Took all of 90 seconds to set up online.
 
ManglerYJ said:
When my wife decided to leave a full time job at the local hospital and go to work for Davie County Schools, she spoke with a couple teacher friends of ours who reminded us of that fact when determining if their pay was going to be enough for us. We had to set up a fund through our bank (State Employee's Credit Union to take her pay and hold back a certain portion so that we would have income during those summer months. Sounds simple, but it's actually kinda complex. Even still, she works a side hustle providing tele-therapy in Guam. That provides us with our Disney money.
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When my mom worked for the school system she was given the option to take her pay in 10 month or 12 month payments, is that not an option anymore?

Duane
 
CLRracer said:
When my mom worked for the school system she was given the option to take her pay in 10 month or 12 month payments, is that not an option anymore?

Duane
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It was for my wife just a few years ago. We opted for 12. She’s out of the school system now, but it definitely was/is a thing here. It’s one of the first things you set up once hired.
 
RatLabGuy said:
thats odd. When my wife started teaching in '99 in Forsyth Co they immediately asked if she wanted 10 month or 12 month pay, the only difference being that they handle the division over 12 months. Zero work on our part.

Aside - both she and I are now paid biweekly, 26x a year. Since all our bills are monthly, we set up a separate savings account that the paychecks go into, then 1x a month we get an auto transfer into checking for "spending money". This also makes it easier to have extra cahs from raises etc accumulate instead of getting spent.
Took all of 90 seconds to set up online.
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Might be different with teachers. My wife is an Occupational Therapist. She gets paid monthly. That was the other thing to get used to was going from biweekly budgeting to monthly budgeting. At the time, I was still bi-weekly so we had to adjust our bills quite a bit too.
 
My son's school gets Wednesday thru Friday off at Thanksgiving. Two full weeks off at Christmas. Almost 1.5 weeks at Easter. Then almost three months during the summer. Plus several other random days off throughout the year.
 
drkelly said:
My son's school gets Wednesday thru Friday off at Thanksgiving. Two full weeks off at Christmas. Almost 1.5 weeks at Easter. Then almost three months during the summer. Plus several other random days off throughout the year.
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If that’s an attempt to try to reconcile number of days a teacher works vs any other profession…40hrs x 52 weeks / 8hrs = 260 days for most professions. When my wife was working private school (teacher and Admin Manager) she had 180 school days and roughly another 20 teacher work days (give or take a week). That’s what my SIL is doing for public schools now too (was a teacher, now managing IT for the county).
 
CLRracer said:
When my mom worked for the school system she was given the option to take her pay in 10 month or 12 month payments, is that not an option anymore?

Duane
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No longer an option at all. State switched banks July 1st for fiscal year. New bank said it was too expensive. All 10 month employees get 10 month pay. (I think it’s state wide.)
 
UTfball68 said:
If that’s an attempt to try to reconcile number of days a teacher works vs any other profession…40hrs x 52 weeks / 8hrs = 260 days for most professions. When my wife was working private school (teacher and Admin Manager) she had 180 school days and roughly another 20 teacher work days (give or take a week). That’s what my SIL is doing for public schools now too (was a teacher, now managing IT for the county).
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Yes, they work a lot less days. You can't spend over two months in Florida like my son's 2nd grade teacher does every year if you have a normal job.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Man if I'd known when i was a teenager you could get paid for choking the chicken I'd probably have a different career path
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tennis elbow would have already kicked in by now.
 
CLRracer said:
When my mom worked for the school system she was given the option to take her pay in 10 month or 12 month payments, is that not an option anymore?

Duane
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At the time it was an option here.I dont know about now.
 
1-tonmudder said:
At the time it was an option here.I dont know about now.
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It still is in Washington County. My wife has her check broken into 12 payments. I told her it would be better to get 10 and save / invest it instead of the county getting free use of her money, but it is like talking to a wall.

For the last couple years they have deposited 3 payments for June instead of a payment in July and one in August.
 
drkelly said:
Teachers only work 75% of the year. My salary would be a lot less too if it was multiplied by 0.75.
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When my BIL was a teacher he was complaining about pay. When I mentioned having all the time off, he said it was because they were "contact" employees. I reminded him that contact employees at my jobs got paid for their time, no benefits, and no paid vacation. I also reminded him that when he signed said contract it included his pay for the 10 months of work.
 
Thought this was interesting. No overhead menu. No one working the front counter, just a couple folks working the drive thru and a couple more cooking. Drink cups left out, scan your receipt for the machine to work.

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UTfball68 said:
Thought this was interesting. No overhead menu. No one working the front counter, just a couple folks working the drive thru and a couple more cooking. Drink cups left out, scan your receipt for the machine to work.

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Makes sense. If these places gonna have to pay $17/hr, they better figure out a way to do twice the work with half the people.
 
jcramsey said:
Makes sense. If these places gonna have to pay $17/hr, they better figure out a way to do twice the work with half the people.
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No joke…I’m starting to struggle finding folks again after raising wages on average $3-5/hr (depending on department) back in October. My staffing services are telling me I should start considering another $2-3/hr increase. Not only have I had to compete with Food Lion corporate, Amazon distribution, Aldi distribution and Chewy distribution…Nucor and Macy’s just announced they’ll be coming to town/surrounding areas soon. Nucor stated 180 new jobs at an average $99k salary, and I think Macys said a minimum $18/hr. Luckily, last august I started dropping some coin on CapEx, about 1/3 of it will be here in the next 4 weeks, another 1/3 should be here by July…and the last 1/3 is custom equipment that has another 3-6 months of build time. Total estimate in potential headcount reduction is about 50%, plus the equipment will operate about 300% faster than the heads it’ll be replacing. I don’t intend on reducing headcount, but I won’t be held captive by it. As long as I don’t lose 100 people in a short period of time, I can use the human capital to govern/accelerate production as needed/wanted.
 
Futbalfantic said:
Wake county EMS just crushed the state and surrounding. They increased their starting wages to $28 an hour. Starting basically everywhere else is $17-20
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Medic will never match that. Although, the $20 an hour just to drive was sounding pretty sweet last fall.
 
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