Which is cheaper

call M&M offroad, get PJ to quote you a new buggy.

you want my advice.....

buy a yota...and as parts break, upgrade. eventually you'll have a buggy.
 
Buy a military K30 with tons under it, lose the bed, chop the frame, 4 link the rear, sit it on some 42's, go with a leaf springs up front, remove the fenders, sling some tube at it and make an exo, tie it into some sliders and a front bumper, throw a locker in the front and hit the trails hard.

If you can do your on cage work/4 link, you can come out very cheap with a very capable rig.
 
Cheaper to buy someone else's junk who already did the work, and paid the money. Pick your rig..... buggy, cherokee, yota
 
Depends what your real "end game" goal is.
If it's 4-links, vehicle supporting shocks, rockwells/60s, big tires, dual cases, V8 etc... then it dosn't matter what vehicle you start with, you're going to be buying all that stuff anyway, only difference is the chassis.
if your goal is milder and involves stuff that comes w/ the vehcile from te hfactory (using teh springs, Yota axles, etc) then thats cheaper.

The biggest difference is that w/ the Yota/XJ route, you can build slowly and enjoy it in phases as it "grows". The buggy has to be built first, so you have all the cost up front.
 
XJfreakHO said:
Buy a military K30 with tons under it, lose the bed, chop the frame, 4 link the rear, sit it on some 42's, go with a leaf springs up front, remove the fenders, sling some tube at it and make an exo, tie it into some sliders and a front bumper, throw a locker in the front and hit the trails hard.

If you can do your on cage work/4 link, you can come out very cheap with a very capable rig.
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Thats suprising to hear,nobody promotes a fullsize rig.
 
Racing aside, I had more fun in my Jeep when it was locked with 1/2 ton axles, 35" tires and a V8. I'm really excited about the Cherokee I'm building, its like starting over again. I wouldn't trade the last 12 years of experience and wasted money I didn't have for anything.
 
I'd say just get a sa Yota truck and go from there, like has been said before to long you'll have a truggy.
 
1-tonmudder said:
Thats suprising to hear,nobody promotes a fullsize rig.
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Not a fan of wranglers, and not a fan of yotas.

Love the XJ's but hate the paper thin unibody, makes it a little more complicated.

The chevys are simple, strong, cheap, and reliable, if I was building a rig on a budget, thats the way I would go... Don't need any crazy modifications to be tough, and when the 6.2 dies throw in a 350 or 454, when the 208 dies build a 203/205 doubler, when the 400 dies, build it better and put it back in.

Just hard to beat a starter truck that comes with the HD stuff already, whole lot easier than squeezing it into a jeep, and alot cheaper too.
 
Mine started out as a M1009 CUCV but about all thats left that was mil issue is the paint.
 
I convinced Dad to get into 4x4 over the last year (took him to 2 Ecors races and Uwharrie), he asked me what he could buy that would hold up to the abuse and wouldn't break. I told him to buy an M1008 and follow the basic plans I posted above. Well he bought an M1008, and now he loves driving it, and does not want to go that route anymore. He loves the longbed for hauling stuff. Planning to just go with a 6" lift and 37 Take offs, so the truggy will have to wait.

Already have a built small block on the stand though for when the 6.2 dies or he gets tired of it, Truck has 14k miles on it though and runs great so I don't see that happening for a while.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Depends what your real "end game" goal is.
If it's 4-links, vehicle supporting shocks, rockwells/60s, big tires, dual cases, V8 etc... then it dosn't matter what vehicle you start with, you're going to be buying all that stuff anyway, only difference is the chassis.
if your goal is milder and involves stuff that comes w/ the vehcile from te hfactory (using teh springs, Yota axles, etc) then thats cheaper.

The biggest difference is that w/ the Yota/XJ route, you can build slowly and enjoy it in phases as it "grows". The buggy has to be built first, so you have all the cost up front.
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chingaling
 
Caver Dave said:
And 75% of those rigs will require twice as much $$/effort to FIX all the PO's stoopid band-aid/bubblegum/bailing wire "repairs" than if you started from scratch :rolleyes: ... just sayin'
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This has been my luck with the last two rigs I bought. Maybe I just suck at picking out new toys, but the only ones I REALLY were ever happy with were the ones I built. Yeah it cost money, but nothing about this stuff is cheap...so I'd rather build it and know it than buy it imho.

That said my latest junk is a hobbled yj on tons and I'm trying to decide cut it up and make something or build a full on buggy...my advise is just pick one and throw tons of money at it and you'll enjoy it:flipoff2:
 
Ain't nothing cheap about beating the crap out of anything on trails. I'm partial but the toughest stock cheap trail rig is a solid axle toyota IMHO. Stock parts and aftermarket parts are abundant.

My first dd/trail rig I had $1200 in with new 33 tsl and welded diffs front and rear.

It all depends how big of a hole you want to dig to start throwing cash into.
 
Guess you better aim for one of the the 25% rigs then :rolleyes:. Going by those figures 75% of those rigs were built by bootyfabbers, so the odds are he'll end up doing the same. Just sayin'
 
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