Who needs a gun for home protection?

RatLabGuy

RatLabGuy

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Authorities are determining whether the student will face criminal charges, Guglielmi said.

Burglars had taken two laptops and a Sony PlayStation from the students' home Monday, Guglielmi said.

The burglary suspect had been released from prison Saturday, Guglielmi said.



Sounds like to me the thief wanted to die.:beer:
 
hahahaha, im glad the guy had a while to think about what he had gotten himself into before he died. fukkin thieves lol
 
awheelterd said:
hahahaha, im glad the guy had a while to think about what he had gotten himself into before he died. fukkin thieves lol
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yeah, it dosn't sound liek he had a mortal stabbing/slashing, but rather probably bled out too much from losing the hand.

OMG can you imagine the blood mess in the garage?
4 college kids... you know damn well it was a rental.
FYI JHU is in a SHADY part of town. They have security gaurds that walk you to your car if you are at the hospital after dark.
 
I knew it would happen sometime! I use to have a real samurai sword until I decided to give it to my dad for fathers-day (we usually get each other knives or guns for special occasions cuz thats how we roll) Ive always thought that someone will actually use one for self-defense Instead of whipping out the ole 9mil. lol, but it would have been bad if he bought his sword at the flea market, the headline would have been different: "JH Student Got His Ass Beat Cause an Apparent Burglar Got Angry After the Student Hit Him With a Fake Samurai Sword" lol!!
 
I wish they would publish each instance of a robber getting killed in the process of the burglery, maybe it would deter these low lifes from thinking about robbing someone
 
Great job....One more scumbag off the streets...Give him a medal and a new sword...thank you for ridding the streets of this trash.
 
This was all over the local news last night.
Of course, they had an interview w/ the "victim" (e.g. dead guy)'s sister. She was all upset saying "Well, yeah, maybe he was someplace he wasn't supposed to be..." then "There was no reason for him to be attacked, he didn't even have a weapon, he was harmless... he couldn't even run b/c he was out of shape and overweight"...

People like this really make me furious. Um, hello, he broke into somebody's house, and jumped at them when caught. Cause and effect.
 
Here is the sad part, the "victim's" fmaily will sue that boy and some stupid jury will probably give the family a bunch of money... insanity!
 
mudder said:
I knew it would happen sometime! I use to have a real samurai sword until I decided to give it to my dad for fathers-day (we usually get each other knives or guns for special occasions cuz thats how we roll) Ive always thought that someone will actually use one for self-defense Instead of whipping out the ole 9mil. lol, but it would have been bad if he bought his sword at the flea market, the headline would have been different: "JH Student Got His Ass Beat Cause an Apparent Burglar Got Angry After the Student Hit Him With a Fake Samurai Sword" lol!!
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What's the difference in a real samurai sword and a fake one? Sharpness?
 
braxton357 said:
What's the difference in a real samurai sword and a fake one? Sharpness?
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Did you ever get a pocketknife out of the claw machine game when you were a kid? The kind with the chrome paint on the blade? Compare that to your CRKT or Kershaw folder.

One is a pocketknife, the other looks like a pocketknife.
 
Sad for all parties involved....
If this happened in NC than the kid with the sword would do hard time for murder. Unless the perp had a weapon or attempted to sexually assult the kids then you can not kill some one especially for simple B&E. There was what 4 college kids, they could have easilly beaten and restrained the perp. A little excessive not that I don't think he deserved it but he probibly would have been sentenced to hard time and could have been his 3rd strike. Now the perps family will sue and win for sure and the way the laws are they deserve to win. Screwed up system, I hope for the kids that their state has iminent(sp?) domain, then their good. I wish NC had iminent domain laws here but we don't so that sucks.

You could still f someone up with a fake sword big time. My bro split my head open when we were younger with a yard stick and then later with a big red plastic wiffle ball bat. Those don't even have an edge but I bet you could get to the bone with a "fake" sword. Maybe he should of had a fake one then he would just be facing assult charges instead of murder.
 
^^ as of right now there is no mention of pressing charges, technically the investigation is still ongoing but the local PO says "that's a required formality", it is their call whether to press or not.
According to the details reported the perp attacked the student and he swung the sword in defense, nearly cutting off the hand. He died not from being "attacked" but due to blood loss from the hand injury before ambulance crew could arrive. E.g. student did not inetntionally mortally wound him. Student called 911 beforehand. The other students were in the house but NOT immediately there with him.
Seems pretty clear to me.
And if you think NC is liberal and easy on crooks/hard on homeowners protection, it's got nothin' on Maryland. We can't even get CCW.
 
The kid was defending his place of residence. I have no mercy for people who break into homes etc and steal. They deserve whatever they get. Some get away, others get what this guy got. It doesn't matter whether the intruder was armed or not, he was in the wrong to begin with. If some jury ends up giving his family a bunch of money b/c someone else defended himself and his posessions then they need to be examined.
 
John Pontolillo is still detained with charges possible pending....
However the police said that he did not have the intent to kill.


Found this from a news site:

"After the officers left, the housemates decided to check the area again, with Pontolillo grabbing the sword, Guglielmi said. As Pontolillo checked an outside yard area after 1 a.m., he noticed Rice crouched in a corner, Guglielmi said. He told the man not to move, and yelled for his roommates to call police, according to Guglielmi.

Pontolillo was not inside the garage but backed up against the exterior of a garage door when Rice is alleged to have aggressively moved toward him with his arms raised. Guglielmi said Pontolillo made one downward strike towards Rice, hitting him in the neck and the hand. Rice's hand was nearly severed, and he bled to death at the scene."

To be a devils advocate:
If I had to be a prosecuter, I think I would have an open and shut case of murder here. Perp gets sword from room and un sheiths it to go invetigate. Perp is found outside, unarmed and backed against an outside wall with arms raised and in plain sight then homeowner strikes with a deadly weapon and leaves what appears to be defensive wounds on hand and chest of perp.

The problems for Mr. Pontolillo are:
-sword is a deadly weapon
-the perp is unarmed
-perp outside the home
-perp has no weapon (hands in air)
-Homeowner unsheithed weapon somewhere in process of going outside
-unsheithing the sword is intent
-homeowner was not in fear of personal safety (could have ran away)
-detained perp w/ weapon untill perp "made move"
-defensive wounds on perp


Still IMO I think he got what he deserved unfortunently for Mr. Pontolillo the law is the law and I think he might be in big big trouble.
 
Pontolillo was not inside the garage but backed up against the exterior of a garage door when Rice is alleged to have aggressively moved toward him with his arms raised.

Burglar rose his hands AFTER being cornered, not before, while "aggressively moving" towards the student. It was dark, student had no knowledge that he did NOT have a weapon (remember, his arms were NOT raised prior to this point). Self defense.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Pontolillo was not inside the garage but backed up against the exterior of a garage door when Rice is alleged to have aggressively moved toward him with his arms raised.
Burglar rose his hands AFTER being cornered, not before, while "aggressively moving" towards the student. It was dark, student had no knowledge that he did NOT have a weapon (remember, his arms were NOT raised prior to this point). Self defense.
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According to the guy who's still breathing. The perp is never going to get to tell his side of the story, and now the kid has to live with that. I'm hurt for both of them. I believe in self-defense in the case of a threat, but this is just a little too suspicious. I hope the kid gets exonerated, but he's got this on his conscience now.
 
I'm with you 100% Mark, I sure wouldn't want to be him and have that on my conscience.
Politically, I just don't see how the BPD could charge him unless they have a really solid case. This is in a crappy part of town where folks already feel unsafe and don't trust the cops, which is really unfortunate. If they charge him that will only make things way worse for their already bad public image. From that viewpoint, best resolution may be for him to get a fine or some minor charge for unlawful use of a waepon or something, and let it all go.
 
To hell with charges....Give him a medal and another sword. one less piece of shit on the streets.
 
Hyperlite said:
John Pontolillo is still detained with charges possible pending....
The problems for Mr. Pontolillo are:
-sword is a deadly weapon
-the perp is unarmed
-perp outside the home
-perp backed against a wall
-perp has no weapon (hands in air)
-Homeowner unsheithed weapon somewhere in process of going outside
-unsheithing the sword is intent
-homeowner was not in fear of personal safety (could have ran away)
-detained perp w/ weapon untill perp "made move"
-defensive wounds on perp
Still IMO I think he got what he deserved unfortunently for Mr. Pontolillo the law is the law and I think he might be in big big trouble.
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According to the news story, the homeowner was against a wall with a guy coming at him. Rather than him running up on the burglar and pinning him against a wall.
 
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