Why people take the law into their own hands.

ManglerYJ

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Lexington, NC
My wife and I have been dealing with her ex-husband and his lack of paying for stuff for a long time. He went an entire year without paying a dime for the girl's medical expenses (he was to reimburse for 50% of the actual costs), plus a little into the following year. It got to the point that my wife finally had to take him to court and get a judgment against him. At this point, he is on the hook for about $1000.

We paid $90 in court costs to get this judgment. They then tell us to have the judgment enforced, we have to have him served with papers indicating so ($30 to serve via Sherriff). At the time, he was living with his mom, so we had him served there. She tells the Sherriff that he has moved out of state (which was a lie), so the paperwork is returned. $30 down the drain.

He paid a small portion of the judgment and never did anything since. Several years later, we attempt to have the judgment enforced and the County Court office charges us $30 to have him served again. We attempt to have him served at his house. Several months later, we find out that the paperwork was returned because "nobody was home". Another $30 down the drain.

So, they suggest that we file again, this time having him served at work. It's one thing to have your mom lie for you, it's another to ask your boss to lie to a Sherriff Deputy. So we pay another $30 and fill out the paperwork. They said it can take 3-10 days to serve, so we wait. A couple weeks later, we call and still nothing. They say it can take a couple weeks. A couple weeks later, we call again and they say that it can take 6-8 weeks. They suggest we call the Sherriff to make sure they have the paperwork. We speak to the Deputy and confirm that he has the paperwork with him. He says it can take up to 3 months.

So I call back today because the three months is up and lo-and-behold, he was served on August 8th. Now they tell me that I have to pay another $55 and have him served with a "Writ of Execution" in order for the Sherriff to go and actually collect the money. Apparently all those $30 filings were to "remind him that he owes us money" and that now that he's been reminded, they can actually go collect it, but there's no guarantee that we'll get anything.

So, when all is said and done, we will have had to shell out $235 to "hopefully" get back $1000. The only bright spot in all this is that they do tack on interest to what the original claim is from the date of the judgment. For what THAT's worth.
 
Judgement isnt worth the paper its written on.The year my son was born our house got broke in to and it took them about two years to find the guy.At trail we got got judgement for the items lost but have yet to see a dime of the money.Oh yeah my son just turned 15 Sep 1st.
 
What a loser. You would think that he would want to provide for his daughter and have that as his top priority in life even if it didn't work out between him and the daughter's mother. He doesn't deserve to even be involved in her life.
 
Is any body else of the opinion that the Sheriff's office should not have to be paid for this service. They are enforcing the law as prescribed by a judge. Seems like it should be part of their duty. Not like they are providing additional security for an event.


The real "racket" part of it is that it's the only option. I could have just as easily stuck it in a FedEx envelope with a required signature for half what they charged, but it's not an option. For the law-abiding citizens of the world, having a Sherriff's car roll up at your place of employment would be enough to get you on the straight and narrow (if you weren't there already), but for those that just don't care - it means nothing.
 
Is any body else of the opinion that the Sheriff's office should not have to be paid for this service. They are enforcing the law as prescribed by a judge. Seems like it should be part of their duty. Not like they are providing additional security for an event.

Either that, or they stop taking tax dollars. Seems like they are getting paid twice to do thier job, more than that if they have to make multiple trips.
 
I guess what upsets me the most about it is that there doesn't seem to be a clearly defined "procedure" for this that I can review up front. when we first started this whole process, if we had known up front what the process would entail with all of the steps and fees laid out in advance, we honestly would not have bothered with it in the first place. Yes, $1000 is a lot of money, but having already sunk almost $200 into the process just to get it back, not to mention time off from work to go to court and file each of these pieces of paperwork, it's really not worth the effort in the long run.

Every time we would call, it seemed as though we were getting a different story and nobody seems to care that we are in the right. We did things the right way, having our day in court and getting a proper judgment which as noted, isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
 
Is any body else of the opinion that the Sheriff's office should not have to be paid for this service. They are enforcing the law as prescribed by a judge. Seems like it should be part of their duty. Not like they are providing additional security for an event.

yeah you'd think it would be covered by tax revenue...

Although - I do wonder if part of the "justification" (used in quotes to denote the snarl in my voice) is to limit the requests to ones that are actually worthwhile, e.g. inhibit people from just being assholes and needlessly pestering the Sheriff to serve things that either don't matter or are fraudulent. Kind of like the DMV charging for them to mail you records b/c they don't want to be spending all their time stuffing enveloped just b/c a million people are curious.
 
Any way to have his wages garnished? That will stick it to him.


That's all part of the legal process that I've been dealing with. Probably step 37 and I'm on step 5. Anyway, apparently the process goes:

1. Pay money to take him to court
2. Take time off work to go to court (if you don't, he wins by default)
3. Get useless judgment.
4. Pay money to have him reminded that he owes you money (lather, rinse, repeat as necessary)
5. Finally have him served.
6. Pay money again to tell the Sherriff that it's OK to take his property.
7. Determine that he's such a loser that he doesn't actually own anything, so there's not much to take and sell
8. Probably pay more money
9. Take a wad of $20 bills and light it on fire.
10. Urinate on the ashes of the $20 bills
11. Pay some more money
12. Occasionally see him riding around town on his Harley that he just bought (or his mom bought - more likely)
13. Complain on an online forum (because it makes you feel better)
14. Develop a jaded distrust for the entire legal system
15. Forget what he owed you money for to begin with
16. Think of all the ways you could be spending the $1000 that you'll never see.


...and so on
 
Any way to have his wages garnished? That will stick it to him.

I had my two CR250 dirt bikes stolen back in 1999. The theif was identified by fingerprints at the crime scene (my father's garage). They found the guy and garnished his wages for about a year or two (after he spent some time in jail). At least that is how long the checks kept arriving. The checks eventually stopped before the full amount was repaid. I'm guessing the guy ended up back in jail. He was a multi time loser.
 
I had my two CR250 dirt bikes stolen back in 1999. The theif was identified by fingerprints at the crime scene (my father's garage). They found the guy and garnished his wages for about a year or two (after he spent some time in jail). At least that is how long the checks kept arriving. The checks eventually stopped before the full amount was repaid. I'm guessing the guy ended up back in jail. He was a multi time loser.


If he is locked up, you should be able to look him up in the Inmate Search. http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/opi/offendersearch.do?method=view

Fun little tool to research people (especially useful to research step-daughter's prospective boyfriends)
 
That's all part of the legal process that I've been dealing with. Probably step 37 and I'm on step 5. Anyway, apparently the process goes:

1. Pay money to take him to court
2. Take time off work to go to court (if you don't, he wins by default)
3. Get useless judgment.
4. Pay money to have him reminded that he owes you money (lather, rinse, repeat as necessary)
5. Finally have him served.
6. Pay money again to tell the Sherriff that it's OK to take his property.
7. Determine that he's such a loser that he doesn't actually own anything, so there's not much to take and sell
8. Probably pay more money
9. Take a wad of $20 bills and light it on fire.
10. Urinate on the ashes of the $20 bills
11. Pay some more money
12. Occasionally see him riding around town on his Harley that he just bought (or his mom bought - more likely)
13. Complain on an online forum (because it makes you feel better)
14. Develop a jaded distrust for the entire legal system
15. Forget what he owed you money for to begin with
16. Think of all the ways you could be spending the $1000 that you'll never see.


...and so on
#13 is quality.
 
Don't forget if you really want to complain. You have to do it in the garage section.(and that ain't free either)
 
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