Will a TJ d35 locker work?

thebluyak

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I know, dont polish a turd but ill swap axles when im home from college.
So now my question, will a detriot EZ locker from a 98 TJ D35 work in my 86 cherokee with a d35 or what would I need to change to make it work?
thanks
Ryan
 
Maybe - it depends on if you have the same carrier in them both.

To start with -
On the D35 you have both C-Clip and Non-C-Clip type axles.

Then -
You have limited slip and non-limited slip carriers.

AND -
to further complicate matters. There are 2 different journal diameters where the spider side gears go into the carrier housing. Which is really the big issue.

So...

If you can get the BOM numbers off both the donor (TJ) and your Cherokee axles and see if they take the same spider gears. If they do, then the locker *should* swap.


Having said all that. Personally, I wouldn't put a locker in that D35. Save your money until you can upgrade to an D44 or an 8.8.
 
google is your friend.

different part numbers for the 98 d35 and your 86 d35. i believe the difference in this application is abs or not.

kevin
 
Well - that is not necessarily so.

I have seen the ABS and non-abs carriers interchange.

I have also seen the listings be wrong and the one listed NOT fit.

Best thing is to either go by the BOM number or physically measure the spider journal diameter.
 
I understand where you are coming from, but this kid is asking for advice about buying a used EZ locker from a 98 TJ for his 86 XJ. Looking at Tractech's spec sheet, they list 3 part numbers :

812A025(h) for 1993-03 Dana 35 C-Clip
812A020(j) for 1984-93 Dana 35 C-Clip
812A020 for 1985-89 Dana 35 non C-Clip

If he knew enough to know where/what BOM number was or was capable of physically measuring the spider journal diameter, he probably would never had asked this question. Telling him maybe just muddies the water. :beer:


Just my .02
 
Save your money Ryan. I've seen 3 D35 axles break after a locker was added. The "good deal" is cause someone else finally figured it out and nwants to get rid of the locker for a reason. SAVE YOUR MONEY for an 8.8 or D44. You will hear this again and again. Try and learn from others mistakes. You won't live long enough to make them all yourself.
JB

PS: did I mention ......SAVE YOUR MONEY for an 8.8 or D44. ;)
 
My unpopular opinion.

Ryan, I wheeled for 2 years on a Locked D35. 33" swampers. Yes, it will break, unless you know it's limitations. Easy on the skinny pedal, and carry a spare shaft. I will also say though, with the Detroit locker, your looking at not only the cost of the locker, but the cost of the install, since it replaces your carrier. I used a powertrax soft locker, didn't require setting up my gears again. So factor in the cost of installation and the detroit and then price swapping in an 8.8. Betting it might be worth waiting on the 8.8 and saving the money.
 
AH well I found out it wont fit, I have a non c clip and that one does have a C clip. I really want an 8.8 in my rear, but with my no amount of welding skills or fab skills itd be very had to strip an 8.8 weld the carrier then set it up for my cherokee.
Maybe Ill look around and if one doesnt run to much I might try to pick it up and someone can coach me through it, I remember seeing some install tips/questions about it on here possibly from Josh

Ryan
 
kcarroll said:
I understand where you are coming from, but this kid is asking for advice about buying a used EZ locker from a 98 TJ for his 86 XJ. Looking at Tractech's spec sheet, they list 3 part numbers :

812A025(h) for 1993-03 Dana 35 C-Clip
812A020(j) for 1984-93 Dana 35 C-Clip
812A020 for 1985-89 Dana 35 non C-Clip

If he knew enough to know where/what BOM number was or was capable of physically measuring the spider journal diameter, he probably would never had asked this question. Telling him maybe just muddies the water. :beer:


Just my .02
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All very true.
I was trying to resist the overpowering urge to jump on the "scrap the D35" bandwagon. And give him an out. But you are correct.

And to Rob, I have seen you take that rig some places I didn't think you were gonna get through. (Paragon among others) You have the experience to get away with it. I am not so sure a new wheeler will have the finesse to keep a locked 35 in one piece.
Nor what it takes to swap axles on the trail while we wait behind him.
Also -
I believe he is talking lunch box not a full detroit so the install will not be quite as bad, but still probably more than he is comfortable with doing himself.

So - I will retrack my earlier input.

Naaa - Won't work. Sorry. Save your money until you can upgrade.
;)

Besides wheeling open builds skill and teaches ya where the lines are.

:beer:
 
If you want a locked d35 and are not worried about the axle... WELD IT. If you break it, so what.... You are gonna put and 8.8 in it anyway. Go over a friends house and throw some rods up in the spider gears and go at it. :D
 
wbcarver said:
And to Rob, I have seen you take that rig some places I didn't think you were gonna get through. (Paragon among others) You have the experience to get away with it. I am not so sure a new wheeler will have the finesse to keep a locked 35 in one piece.
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Who in the high holy hell are you talking about?? Certainly not Rob Sitze.. Finesse? skill? :lol: :flipoff2:
 
Actually, Bill, I think I had the 8.8 in Paragon when you were there with us. But I did wheel Paragon, and Rattler trail with a D35.

Rich, Bite me. :flipoff2:
 
HAHA Nah I wanted to swap axles to begin with. Im trying to scrunge money, if youll also notice im trying to depart with my subwoofers from my civic :( . I dont know how to weld Josh or I would just weld the spider gears. But I talked things over with my parents and I can bring the axle here and strip it clean it and such. So after I put the CB in which I was doing later ill be going to high point auto salvage to see what they have and hopeflully be dragging something home. I was reading your post for the 8.8 swap before work this afternoon and it doesnt sound to extremely difficult something I could handle with a little bit of assistance. Anyone wanna be bought some lunch sometime whenever I go through with this??? haha
 
Putting an 8.8 in a Cherokee doesn't have to be expensive. You can usually find them with your current gearing (3.55) so a gear swap is not required. If you get one with disc brakes still on it all you have to do is install some perches on top, get some ubolts/plates, run brake lines and probably do something with your booster/MC combo. Most places pull the calipers for rebuild though. Your other option is to get an 8.8 4.10 geared (for bigger tires) and do the same thing and change your front gearing to match. 4.10 gears are always out there from 4 cylinder YJ's for $50.
 
Hey, if you need some help let me know. I have not started on mine yet but I'd be glad to help ya'.
 
Alright thanks Josh we are fairly close. Hopefully Ill be doing the pull after graduation which is in like 5 weeks, ive got one more prom to pay for and then the axle will be mine! Did you speak with high point auto salvage or who did you get yours from?
 
kcarroll said:
I understand where you are coming from, but this kid is asking for advice about buying a used EZ locker from a 98 TJ for his 86 XJ. Looking at Tractech's spec sheet, they list 3 part numbers :

812A025(h) for 1993-03 Dana 35 C-Clip
812A020(j) for 1984-93 Dana 35 C-Clip
812A020 for 1985-89 Dana 35 non C-Clip

If he knew enough to know where/what BOM number was or was capable of physically measuring the spider journal diameter, he probably would never had asked this question. Telling him maybe just muddies the water. :beer:


Just my .02
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Thus he postd this in the NEWBIE TECH section... chill out and have yourself a :beer:
 
The last time I wheeled at uwharrie I had an open D35. And it really wasn't that bad, until I grenaded the damn thing on daniel. But then again my jeep is a big heavy POS and the 3.55 gears didn't help.
 
Rich said:
Who in the high holy hell are you talking about?? Certainly not Rob Sitze.. Finesse? skill? :lol: :flipoff2:
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Read my post again.
I never actually said Rob had finesse or skill - but that a new guy definately wouldn't.

But he does have experience.

Or he is an experience.

I just can't remember which.

:D
 
Well I did some research I found an 8.8 outta a 97 explorer with 3.75 gears for 300 and some others for 350 at High point auto salvage, now I just have to save up 300 and then some extra for other parts
Ryan
 
thebluyak said:
Well I did some research I found an 8.8 outta a 97 explorer with 3.75 gears for 300 and some others for 350 at High point auto salvage, now I just have to save up 300 and then some extra for other parts
Ryan
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Check tri-city auto salvage. I got mine out of a 01 merc mountaineer for $200 and it only had 40k miles on it. Only thing not included were the calipers. so:

$200 axle
$75 calipers
$50 new hard/soft brakelines
$20 yoke adapter

equals about the same price as the original axle at HP Auto. Keep looking for a better deal.
 
Where did you get your calipers then? I looked at advanced and found the remans were 50 each plus 50 for each core. That is 200 for calipers. Where ever you are getting them is a deal.
 
Wolfpack OffRoad said:
Where did you get your calipers then? I looked at advanced and found the remans were 50 each plus 50 for each core. That is 200 for calipers. Where ever you are getting them is a deal.
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mine were $34.98 each after the core refund at Advance.
 
I don't think he has cores though, so it would be better for him to find one that is slightly more expensive with the calipers and save the core fee. :)
 
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