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Croatan_Kid

Croatan_Kid

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I think it's safe to say that someone (or a whole squadron) is getting a boot up the poop chute!

I believe it was HM-14 in Norfolk. I guess they forgot about mooring rings and chains? They lost four AC total in the storm.

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10 Navy Helicopters Suffer Major Damage, Several Blown Over in Sudden Norfolk Storm - USNI News

At least 10 Navy helicopters were damaged in a sudden storm that blew through Norfolk Naval Station, Va., Tuesday afternoon, USNI News has learned. According to a Navy initial assessment reviewed by USNI News, the storm resulted in 10 Class A ground mishaps – mishaps that result in more than...
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TLDR; 10 damaged (10 Class A mishaps, meaning over 2.5m per incident!), 4 total losses from being blown over. Three H60s (Sierra model) and an MH-53. That was one helluva thunderstorm.
 
At least that B5 stands wheel got castered and locked correctly thank the lord . someone is getting a QA pass for that LMFAO
 
So for us civvies that aren't fully aware of protocol, Is it expected they should have been moored automatically after landing? Or is it just that this was a really fast incoming storm and nobody ran out to do it beforehand?
Just wondering the difference between shitty luck and somebody fucked up. Article sounds like the former.
 
RatLabGuy said:
So for us civvies that aren't fully aware of protocol, Is it expected they should have been moored automatically after landing? Or is it just that this was a really fast incoming storm and nobody ran out to do it beforehand?
Just wondering the difference between shitty luck and somebody fucked up. Article sounds like the former.
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Depends on the ACFT. I worked heavy jets so Unless we were expecting a huge storm, we didn't moore anything we actually use to just do "fly aways" Essentially just fly the Acft away from harm. even a good microburst won't hurt a heavy KC10. but smaller Acft should be moored when applicable. safe to say alot of people are under the fire here as OP stated Squadron Leadership plus Group and Wing Maintenace officers will be scrutinized depending on the investigation that will launch since this is i believe a class B mishap. I think Class A is when fatalities have occurred.
 
Class A Mishap. Fatality or permanent total disability that resulted from a reportable injury or illness; or, a total cost of damages for DoD or non-DoD property of $2.5 million or more.

10 aircraft were severely damaged. 6 damaged and 4 blown over. The ones that rolled are scrap metal now. I didn't get any details of what was tore up on the other 6, but it's not hard to exceed 2.5m by the time you figure in parts cost, logistics, depot level induction, and man hours.

From my understanding, they had landed not long before and likely had very little fuel in them plus they're top heavy anyway. I've been to that squadron before and generally saw them chained after they were done with their daily flight schedule. It was also a quick moving storm...so it all sort of rolled in to the "perfect storm", so to speak.
 
Croatan_Kid said:
Class A Mishap. Fatality or permanent total disability that resulted from a reportable injury or illness; or, a total cost of damages for DoD or non-DoD property of $2.5 million or more.

10 aircraft were severely damaged. 6 damaged and 4 blown over. The ones that rolled are scrap metal now. I didn't get any details of what was tore up on the other 6, but it's not hard to exceed 2.5m by the time you figure in parts cost, logistics, depot level induction, and man hours.

From my understanding, they had landed not long before and likely had very little fuel in them plus they're top heavy anyway. I've been to that squadron before and generally saw them chained after they were done with their daily flight schedule. It was also a quick moving storm...so it all sort of rolled in to the "perfect storm", so to speak.
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Yep, it sucks to be the investigating officers (one for the safety, one for the property loss). This one is going to be a huge case file of one offs.

Hopefully, everyone did the right thing and that's why this didn't turn into an injury scenario (i.e. the rapid return of aircraft and evacuation of the ground crew to a safe location resulted in the aircraft not being secured prior to the storm making an unexpected landfall).
 
Croatan_Kid said:
Class A Mishap. Fatality or permanent total disability that resulted from a reportable injury or illness; or, a total cost of damages for DoD or non-DoD property of $2.5 million or more.

10 aircraft were severely damaged. 6 damaged and 4 blown over. The ones that rolled are scrap metal now. I didn't get any details of what was tore up on the other 6, but it's not hard to exceed 2.5m by the time you figure in parts cost, logistics, depot level induction, and man hours.

From my understanding, they had landed not long before and likely had very little fuel in them plus they're top heavy anyway. I've been to that squadron before and generally saw them chained after they were done with their daily flight schedule. It was also a quick moving storm...so it all sort of rolled in to the "perfect storm", so to speak.
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Forgot about the OR lol and I can tell you that it's definitely over 2.5 million. We had a Jet that took off with a Gear uplock still installed and tried to rotate the gear several times. needless to say the gear door and left gear Assy suffered some good damage. I knew the overseeing offical for that and they estimated those costs to be $390,000 dollars' worth of parts, and man hours.
 
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