mig welding galvanized stuff, advise?tips?

braxton357 said:
So did you give Bud a notice when you left?

That's a rhetorical question...too bad too because you'll be asking for that old job back before long.
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If you only knew the half of it but you wouldnt believe me anyways so I'll keep that personal.
 
marty79 said:
I've read it all thanks guys.

This is my attitude now. I'm pushing it today rather than pulling and it's much better..he's plenty happy so I guess I'll settle for what it is as far as welds go.
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pulling short circuit always causes a higher profile...........always.
 
If I was constantly welding galvanized structural stuff I'd want to be stick welding in a very well ventilated area. Do you have any welding certifications?
 
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marty79 said:
If you only knew the half of it but you wouldnt believe me anyways so I'll keep that personal.
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There are always two sides to every story...
 
1stgenxxx said:
If I was constantly welding stainless structural stuff I'd want to be stick welding in a very well ventilated area. Do you have any welding certifications?
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Nope self taught like everything else. We got 5 bay doors open and big fan on me so I'm good now. Finally getting the hang of this pulling the weld lol
 
DSM Turbos said:
The fumes are harmless guys!!! This guy has been doing it for years, y'all know nothing!
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Who are u mocking cause I never said anything like that
 
And I figured out the gun on this Miller 210 is a piece of junk cuz I use his Miller 211 that's got a good gun and wow night and day difference but he knew that already, ones on the way already. The Miller 211 is a pretty cool little machine!
 
marty79 said:
Finally getting the hang of this pulling the weld
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DSM Turbos said:
Who said I was mocking anybody?



So you are wearing a mask now?
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Not yet but I set up a fan to wear draws it away completely so for now it works but he will get me one. Plus because flux welding for 10 years I learn to keep my face far away from it and not be right up on the welds because of the flux wire does similar gases
 
Ron said:
There are always two sides to every story...
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True...I usually say there's three, though... One guy's, the other guy's, and then what really happened...
 
Scooter402 said:
True...I usually say there's three, though... One guy's, the other guy's, and then what really happened...
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I just say perception and reality.
Sometimes both parties have a skewed perception and reality lies in the middle. Sometimes its always the other guys fault.
 
Ron said:
I just say perception and reality.
Sometimes both parties have a skewed perception and reality lies in the middle. Sometimes its always the other guys fault.
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Sounds like we've got similar standpoints...I always say "perception is reality." Each party involved has their own perception of the reality, so that is theirs.
 
marty79 said:
Not yet but I set up a fan to wear draws it away completely so for now it works but he will get me one. Plus because flux welding for 10 years I learn to keep my face far away from it and not be right up on the welds because of the flux wire does similar gases
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All welding has a fume plume. It’s all bad, the majority of what you will encounter can be filtered out with the respirator I posted above. The fan draws it away, but you are still breathing it in the shop air, it’s just diluted.

Regardless of the boss is going to do, go get yourself a respirator and be proactive about taking your ppe serious. The boss and other workers will probably talk crap, then take notice and may use the same precautions you are.

If I were your supervisor, I wouldn’t let you work without one.

It’s the equivalent of not wearing safety glasses in a shop. Pennies on the dollar for quality protection from something that will kill you/ruin your eyes/lungs/stomach/kidneys/liver/throat/brain/nervous system etc.

If you don’t take your own personal safety serious, why should the boss trust you to take the job and make quality welds seriously?
 
Mac5005 said:
and make quality welds seriously?
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This is the funny part, he's happy with the welds I'm the one whose not lol. He agrees the gun is toast so getting new one Thursday. It's only me and him and he's training me to take over the shop on my own so he can go out and live a little lol and do other work. Really nice super cool guy, laid back honest man of God been in this business 30yrs and growing even more. I get trained in can make my own schedule as long as materials get cut/bent/welded. Told me today I'd have to hire a helper once I'm full in and I get to do the picking, oh boy.
Needless to say once I'm all in on my own, I'm switching to flux wire and that's that. For me personally, this Mig on galvanized will never be half as quick as I am with flux, today however I went above his expectations on production while he was gone all day...and to think that's my slow speed with this retarted method of welding galvanized. Pretty sweet so far, looks very promising for a career and not a check every week!
 
marty79 said:
This is the funny part, he's happy with the welds I'm the one whose not lol. He agrees the gun is toast so getting new one Thursday. It's only me and him and he's training me to take over the shop on my own so he can go out and live a little lol and do other work. Really nice super cool guy, laid back honest man of God been in this business 30yrs and growing even more. I get trained in can make my own schedule as long as materials get cut/bent/welded. Told me today I'd have to hire a helper once I'm full in and I get to do the picking, oh boy.
Needless to say once I'm all in on my own, I'm switching to flux wire and that's that. For me personally, this Mig on galvanized will never be half as quick as I am with flux, today however I went above his expectations on production while he was gone all day...and to think that's my slow speed with this retarted method of welding galvanized. Pretty sweet so far, looks very promising for a career and not a check every week!
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For all the reasons you mentioned you should read both my posts several times and take note of the details.

I’m trying to give you recommendations to make it easier for you, save time, maximize profits, and protect your health/ ensure your safety.

I think spray arc with solid wire on galv will surprise you if you get the settings dialed in.
 
Me personally, I avoid it like the plague. If I have to, I'd much rather it be with stick and outdoors.
Very solid advice here though.
 
Mac5005 said:
I think spray arc with solid wire on galv will surprise you if you get the settings dialed in.
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I tried but 1. the Miller 210 doesn't do it that well and 2. When I had it spraying descent it attempt to burn through and since other tubing fit inside these we can't take the risk. With a new gun maybe I'll play with settings little more but been trying not to burn up the clock either "practicing" so little here and there but keep on going. I do appreciate greatly all the advise, especially on the health hazard, new to me on the zinc stuff.
 
Mac5005 said:
the settings dialed in
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If I'm not mistaken the Miller 210 max voltage is 26.5 so kinda not a very hot spray at that with 208v
 
Might be wrong though
 
Mac5005 said:
Looks like it could be done in spray with top 3/4 voltage taps, depending on wire speed and stick out.
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I'll mess with it more once I get the gun. I'm on 4 now and it's rough no matter the wire speed but it's what has gotten the welds much better than yesterday on level 3. Thanks dude
 
210 with .035 will have a tough time, especially not gonna happen with c25. He's also not gonna fork out the extra cash for a spool of flux core that will last half as long and leave slag. Why not just weld the way the owner--your boss and guy with 30 years experience--says he wants it done. If it's slow who gives a fuck you're getting paid by the hour.

I don't know how it goes over in your head but I can tell you from real life, the non-skilled new guy saying "it should be done this way" will not work out in your favor.
 
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