Hurricane Helene

jeepinmatt said:
"Additionally, the Rapid Response Division looked at labor invoices which showed staff at the station were paid an hourly rate of up to $145.50 per hour and given a $215 per diem. These labor expenses were not included in the average daily cost of the station." :kaioken:
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I read that twice cause there was no way that's right. WTF!?
 
Additionally, the Rapid Response Division looked at labor invoices which showed staff at the station were paid an hourly rate of up to $145.50 per hour and given a $215 per diem. These labor expenses were not included in the average daily cost of the station.
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Went to Roan Mountain yesterday for the annual Rhododendron Festival and to hike. Going up to the gardens, you can start to see tree damage about half way up
Once at the top, the amount of broken, uprooted and downed trees is gut wrenching. Ranger there said they have 20-30k acres of downed trees in the immediate forest area. Driving through Bakersville you see tremendous flood related damage still present.
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So if a person wanted to visit the Helene affected area to see what happened but to also stimulate the economy at every chance, where or what would be the best approach and place to go?
 
Jody Treadway said:
Based on where we've either driven through or delivered materials to:
Burnsville, Bakersville, Old Fort, Spruce Pine to name a few.
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Buladean to Spruce pine
 
Jody Treadway said:
Went to Roan Mountain yesterday for the annual Rhododendron Festival and to hike. Going up to the gardens, you can start to see tree damage about half way up
Once at the top, the amount of broken, uprooted and downed trees is gut wrenching. Ranger there said they have 20-30k acres of downed trees in the immediate forest area. Driving through Bakersville you see tremendous flood related damage still present.
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Don’t worry, Biden said there’s nothing to fix and Trump said no need for anymore money. :shaking:
 
We are near Spruce Pine in the the Celo area... We are still hoping to get a truck bridge built for ems... Tanker being not in good shape the only way to the house is drive through the creek.... I don't see ems going that route...The rest of the drive being 1/4 mile is not 2 wheel drive friendly... We got lucky compared to other people....
 
jeepinmatt said:
Don’t worry, Biden said there’s nothing to fix and Trump said no need for anymore money. :shaking:
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no kidding, it's ridiculous
The picture I posted was the Roan Mtn State Park campground. The campground on the other side of the bridge was destroyed. Landslides, trees etc.
I didn't take pictures in the gardens where the devastation was so bad. I just didn't want to see them again.
 
R Q said:
So if a person wanted to visit the Helene affected area to see what happened but to also stimulate the economy at every chance, where or what would be the best approach and place to go?
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We were in Old Fort and Black Mtn working last week. Both downtown areas are open for business, and really appreciate the support. Chimney Rock is partially open now too, and needing the tourism.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Don’t worry, Biden said there’s nothing to fix and Trump said no need for anymore money. :shaking:
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Not to get too far off track....but didn't Trump's FEMA extend it's usual runway for full recovery spending and only recent slightly reduced the spend?

Even if you dropped 500 men with chainsaws into the zone, it all still takes time. And cleaning up downed trees obviously takes a backseat to getting towns and cities back running.
 
benXJ said:
Not to get too far off track....but didn't Trump's FEMA extend its usual runway for full recovery spending and only recent slightly reduced the spend?
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My understanding is that he declined the continuation of funds at the 6 month mark because he had already taken credit for fixing everything so there was no political capital left to be juiced from it.
 
benXJ said:
Even if you dropped 500 men with chainsaws into the zone, it all still takes time. And cleaning up downed trees obviously takes a backseat to getting towns and cities back running.
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I think about 50000 men with chainsaws dropped in within the first week, and it took that just to make the roads passable. Getting towns and cities back running will take another 50,000 trucks and tractors and millions of man hours and billions of dollars.
 
jeepinmatt said:
I think about 50000 men with chainsaws dropped in within the first week, and it took that just to make the roads passable. Getting towns and cities back running will take another 50,000 trucks and tractors and millions of man hours and billions of dollars.
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A bunch of the debris is getting hauled to a landfill near where I live. It's amazing the amount of dump truck and tractor trailer traffic hauling the stuff. I pass about 20-30 tractor trailers lined up every morning waiting for the landfill to open. Spots that used to big big hayfields are getting turned into stump dumps everywhere. Two have popped up in the last few months just a few miles from here. It's an insane amount of debris they are trying to get rid of.
 
Pless said:
A bunch of the debris is getting hauled to a landfill near where I live. It's amazing the amount of dump truck and tractor trailer traffic hauling the stuff. I pass about 20-30 tractor trailers lined up every morning waiting for the landfill to open. Spots that used to big big hayfields are getting turned into stump dumps everywhere. Two have popped up in the last few months just a few miles from here. It's an insane amount of debris they are trying to get rid of.
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I remember passing one of those stump dumps after leaving the shop that day I came by. When we were in Boone last weekend I saw no less than a dozen trucks (18-20’ flat beds, knuckle booms, and high side boards with trailers to match) hauling debris every day.
 
Hokie_YJ said:
I remember passing one of those stump dumps after leaving the shop that day I came by. When we were in Boone last weekend I saw no less than a dozen trucks (18-20’ flat beds, knuckle booms, and high side boards with trailers to match) hauling debris every day.
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Theres a crew that has been working around here since just after the storm.Saw those guys at Hardees the other day and they were talking to some other person and said that they had been working 6-12's and a 10 since they got there.I dont know where they are hauling to but you see those guys every day.
 
FWIW ares of the midland SC still havent recovered from the 2015 flood,
And they didnt have nearly the velocity due to the topography
 
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