thinking of join the usmc

Hello Hello,

Glad to see you are interested. I am a Sgt in the great USMC right now, Re-enlisted last year.

As for the one comment...... Combat training itself is probably very similar between the branches. There is not much difference between pulling one trigger over another. The other training is certainly much different.
If the Army doesnt want to admit it, that's there issue. If all the training was the same, there wouldn't be 2 different branches.

As for the Afghanistan comment. That was a flat out lie, and stupid as hell.
You will not be deployed for 2 years. The longest Marine Corps deployment I know of is 13 months, but then that is only 1 time every for years. For MOST units, its 7 months spent overseas.

The Marine Corps has grown its size in order to provide troops with a 2:1 ratio. If you deploy for 7 months, they want you home for 14 months before you can deploy again.

If that sounds bad, come join my unit, it is 7 months deployed, 5 months home, from 2003 until now. Thanks to the increase in size, that shouldn't be the case anymore starting next year.

There are many assholes in the Marine Corps. No matter where you work, there will be an asshole. So dont let that run you off.

Marines are arrogant. They feel they are better than every other branch. That argument will never end. I have had multiple Army/Navy/Air Force cats come up to me and tell me that they think I am better than them for being a Marine. Who cares though? Some people thing Texans are cool and New Yorkers are assholes. Its all an opinion. Everybody has one.

Just like the other guy above, who just picked up Cpl, I can answer any questions you may have. All you gotta do is ask. I will give you 100% honest answers, and even tell you where another branch may be better.
For example, the Air Force gets special pay for poor living conditions. (All Marine Corps living spaces are poor to A. F. standards).

Just Let me know.

-Matt (Sgt Ross)
 
I have a buddy at camp lejeune now. He joined before graduating high school and left for boot camp a month after he graduated. He's just 18 years old. He loves it and hates it at the same time. About the arrogance comment...that is very true! He's one of the most arrogant guys I know but he's also one of the nicest. He tells me about all the bad stuff in the Marine Corps but also all of the good stuff. I also have another friend who will be returning home from boot camp on April 11th. If you have any questions you could send it to me in a PM and I could ask either of them.
 
, the Air Force gets special pay for poor living conditions.

I dont know about that one,I have been in for almost 4 years and never got extra pay for poor living conditions haha!

Anyways man this topic could go on and on but it comes down to you what do you want to do?and what do you want to get out of this?but like I had said dont let the hooah! of the marines being "so bad" make you go that way beacuse you think if you dont go that way your a puss.Dont get me wrong when im deployed Im glad we have guys going "outside the wire" to find the bad guys while I stay on base and launch out jets.I respect them no doubt but you have to figure out whats important to you!
 
Military

You need to decide what you "think" the military can do for you and what you can do for them. If you want to be a combat type person, go to the Army or Marines. If you want to learn a technical skill, go Navy or Air Force. All have some pretty hefty enlistment bonus money now, including the National Guard and Reserves.
I retired after 34 years Air Force and Air National Guard. I recieved some of the best electronics training availiable and was able to turn it into a Federal Civil Service position and military service. I retired from both.

As a rule the Air Force/Air Guard lives,travels, and eats better than the other services. They spend such a large sum of money training people they try to keep them.

"Five Star Hotel with a broken remote is ruffing it".:driver:
 
Im gonna be headin to boot camp on april 27th. So if u decide, your not alone on this board.
 
TRC&P25 said:
"you the damn idiot, do a little research" "i have to dis agree, it not even close"
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well, at least you sound like you belong in the USMC, talking like a meat head:shaking:. there is no research to be done. infantry is infantry. look at it like this... theres this school in the army called ranger school. infantry from both army and marines as well as other branches of the military to include navy and airforce that are SPEC OPS attend. it is a school for basic infantry operations. so if anywhere, the army would be the branch who teaches these tasks. i think you should do a little more research before you get all bias about the USMC. like i said... its the same training.:popcorn:
 
OlllllllO said:
well, at least you sound like you belong in the USMC, talking like a meat head:shaking:. there is no research to be done. infantry is infantry. look at it like this... theres this school in the army called ranger school. infantry from both army and marines as well as other branches of the military to include navy and airforce that are SPEC OPS attend. it is a school for basic infantry operations. so if anywhere, the army would be the branch who teaches these tasks. i think you should do a little more research before you get all bias about the USMC. like i said... its the same training.:popcorn:
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i have a cousin that is a marine and then the army, he said its a whole nother world, the marines train you to be the best and the first to fight. and im not bias thats y i was asking questions.
 
ok ill give you that the marines are a bit more hard... more disciplined. (the army has gotten a little soft). but ill say it all day... same training. i was just answering your questions.
 
and to add... i dont see anywhere in the military where they train you to be second best. everyone is training to be the best. thats why the american military IS the best.
 
OlllllllO said:
infantry is infantry
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no its not... Marines excel in whats called small unit leadership.
Disciplined, well-rehearsed fireteams instead of squad command only. Rangers are different, but were not comparing force recon vs rangers, were comparing all infantry.

Also, EVERY marine can fight in the infantry if they need to. they are all trained with basic weapons skills and basic combat skills.

I know some people in other branches who have never touched a M16.
 
one more thing, If you are interested in flying, dont go airforce, go USMC officer with guaranteed flight contract if you place in the testing. Marines offer you more practical flying time then majority of airforce. Airforce will have you flying for several years (6-10) of light flying compared to MArines, who will have you fying 3-4 years of heavy flying with lots more time in the cockpit.
 
ARMY= Ain't Ready for Marines Yet. Disiplane is everything. No Displane, all that trianing ain't worth shit. You can't shoot, swim, or PT, get your head out of your ass, you don't earn the title Marine, you go home. All Marines are riflemen first, Grunt, Mechanic, Cook, ect second. My Brother is Graduating Collage this year. He wanted to go to Army OCS. He got tired of the getting dicked around by Army recruiters, and is going USMC. He was blown away with how professional and straight forward the Marine recruiters are compared to the Army counterparts. Army, Navy, Air Force, CG are all honorable organizations, but being a Marine will follow you your whole life.
 
Banned User said:
no its not... Marines excel in whats called small unit leadership.
Disciplined, well-rehearsed fireteams instead of squad command only. Rangers are different, but were not comparing force recon vs rangers, were comparing all infantry.
Also, EVERY marine can fight in the infantry if they need to. they are all trained with basic weapons skills and basic combat skills.
I know some people in other branches who have never touched a M16.
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yes... it is. you must be referring to what the army calls a SKT (small kill team) or for the WW2 guys a LGOP (little groups of paratroopers). Its been in the army forever. A five man element that is given a task by company grade or higher but is independent on how the mission is carried out. All this responsibility lies on just a SGT. Also a disciplined and well rehearsed fire team that is not part of a squad element. As I said before and will say again… SAME TRAINING! Im not trying to say that ANY branch is better than the other. If theres anything different, the marine has a mentality that he is the best and everyone else is under him. You cant compete with confidence. Each branch has a different mission and a special purpose. Not one is better than the other. Its your mentality that makes you bias.
 
Last year, while visiting Ft Bragg, one the unit was having a Class A formation out in front of its Barracks. I saw about a dozen or so different "Troopers" diddy boppin around with their blouses unbuttoned, some not even wearing their headgear. All had the 82nd patch on their sleeve and bloused jump boots. These individuals are supposed to be apart of one of America's most decorated fighting Divisons and they don't even have the disiplane to wear their uniforms properly?!!!! Even worse, there were no NCO's swaring these assholes away! I challenge you to go to ANY Marine Corps base find something like that. Bottom line, disiplane makes better troops everytime. Army training vs. Marine Corps training, look at the rifle qualification for both branches. Army shoots 300yards, Marines shoot 500 yards. Out of the gate a basic Marine has better disiplane and better Marksmanship skills than a basic Soldier.
 
I don’t know what “Disiplane” is. I think you meant discipline. You marines may look squared away in a uniform, but you sure do well in keeping a “meat head” image of your typical grunt.
 
There's a few disciplines that hold you in higher standing once you get out.. being an Aviator, SF, or a Marine are a few I can think of. Something to consider. (And no, I'm not a Marine or former Marine)

PS I'd put an Army warrant officer pilot up against any Marine pilot in terms of training, skill, and amount of hours they get.

As for the attitude, well.. I've said it before... the most bad-ass SOB's I've ever met were some of the most humble and soft-spoken, and they (for the most part) weren't Marines.
 
OlllllllO said:
I don’t know what “Disiplane” is. I think you meant discipline. You marines may look squared away in a uniform, but you sure do well in keeping a “meat head” image of your typical grunt.
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#1 Excuse me Professor :fuck-you: #2 If you think of meat when you think of Marine Grunts, than that sounds like a personal problem. :gay:
 
OlllllllO said:
yes... it is.
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listen, there are elite groups in every branch. As far as basic infantry goes though, there are big differences, both historically and still today.
We didnt choose the name "devil dogs" cause it was cool (most guys dont even want to use it, too moto.) but we got it from the germans in belleau wood when the germans were scared :poop:less of the marines. In the korean war, the marines wore yellow leggings, until the chinese superiors ordered their troops not to engage "the yellowlegged soldiers" The Marines had to take them off so they could fight because the chinese refused to fight the marines. You may not see a difference, but the rest of the world does.
If you want something technical, or maybe you want more $$$, maybe another branch would compare, but if you want to be a part of the best infantry system in the world, go to the Marines. I have nothing against the army, and i agree that neither branch is "better", however, as far as infantry goes, THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TRAINING, and the U.S. Marine Corps has a significantly better reputation for being a better trained infantry. Army has more equipment and tech. But again, history and word of mouth says that the Marines are the best trained infantry in the world.
i am not biased from being in the marines, and i am not even infantry... my cousins, and uncle are all army (captain, major, and colonel) and they agree that both branches have good and bad but when you need men on the ground, the corps had the better infantry. there is a reason we are sent first to combat, and there is a reason that we are known as a "force of readiness"
Marines are an attacking force that can occupy if need be.
Army is an occupying force that can attack if need be.
 
also if you want statistics, go research ratios of combat.

Army has more men so we wont look at total losses or kills, you need to look at ratios.

Marines have a insanely lower ratio of pow/mia/kia than army does per troop.
Marines also have an insanely higher kill count than army does per troop.

That shows a difference in accountability, and a difference in combat efficieny
 
Banned User said:
listen, there are elite groups in every branch. As far as basic infantry goes though, there are big differences, both historically and still today.
We didnt choose the name "devil dogs" cause it was cool (most guys dont even want to use it, too moto.) but we got it from the germans in belleau wood when the germans were scared :poop:less of the marines. In the korean war, the marines wore yellow leggings, until the chinese superiors ordered their troops not to engage "the yellowlegged soldiers" The Marines had to take them off so they could fight because the chinese refused to fight the marines. You may not see a difference, but the rest of the world does.
If you want something technical, or maybe you want more $$$, maybe another branch would compare, but if you want to be a part of the best infantry system in the world, go to the Marines. I have nothing against the army, and i agree that neither branch is "better", however, as far as infantry goes, THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TRAINING, and the U.S. Marine Corps has a significantly better reputation for being a better trained infantry. Army has more equipment and tech. But again, history and word of mouth says that the Marines are the best trained infantry in the world.
i am not biased from being in the marines, and i am not even infantry... my cousins, and uncle are all army (captain, major, and colonel) and they agree that both branches have good and bad but when you need men on the ground, the corps had the better infantry. there is a reason we are sent first to combat, and there is a reason that we are known as a "force of readiness"
Marines are an attacking force that can occupy if need be.
Army is an occupying force that can attack if need be.
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i was not talking about any special groups. just regular ol' army infantry. look, we can go all day about the same argument. i was answering the kids question and i gave him my answer. i am not saying that marines are or are not better than army or anyone else. i am simply saying that the training has the same basic concept. now, as i said in previous replies, that army cannot compete with a marines mentality that he is the best. that begins in basic where as army doesnt instill such character. the army has gone soft in some places. i know this. anyway... go kill something. :beer:
 
WOW!Guys seriously you could go back and forth all day about who has the more "hard core" training.The most important thing here is what do you want out of it and what you want to be able to do while in,thats the main things!Not who has the harder basic training!My self I joined the Air Force for a great education(which I am working on a bachelors for free right now)and to work on the most advanced Fighter aircraft!My opinion if you want to learn an awesome job and get out go Air FOrce because they have all kinds!If you want to make this a career and be a soldier for the greatest country ever the Hell yeah do it!
 
OlllllllO said:
that is pretty gay that you even related the two together... is that all you have?:popcorn:
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WTF is this, :popcorn:, Fat Army man eating pogey bait?
0|||||||||||0, Don't go away mad, just go away. As I said in my previous post, all Branches of our armed forces are Honorable, have there purpose, and have outstanding members, but Army and Marines are not the same, deal with it.
 
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