The re-birth of Callalantee

rockcity said:
Something that needs improvement are the RV sites. A simple leveling and some gravel would do wonders and help the RVs out a TON
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That's on the list along with upgraded power hookups
 
Can we please keep fees comments out of this thread???? Its a dead horse....... and families are going to more and more welcome here.
 
it may be a dead horse but it's the topic of concern. In however many years it's been open, there may have been concerns about bathrooms but people still went because it had good terrain and the price was right.

to be honest, I've been once and I wasn't going to go back for a while. I think that place is doomed. The first person to go and complain about the sediment in the creeks will result in closure aka you can stick a fork in it. Granted it's been around a long time but IMO it'll happen. They need to spend that money coming up with better erosion control management.
 
orangecherokee said:
it may be a dead horse but it's the topic of concern. In however many years it's been open, there may have been concerns about bathrooms but people still went because it had good terrain and the price was right.
to be honest, I've been once and I wasn't going to go back for a while. I think that place is doomed. The first person to go and complain about the sediment in the creeks will result in closure aka you can stick a fork in it. Granted it's been around a long time but IMO it'll happen. They need to spend that money coming up with better erosion control management.
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Strangely enough, sediment in creeks is actually a good thing, at least around here. The Appalachian Mountains around Boone, Mtn. City, are a HUGE population area for salamanders, most quite rare. Sediment increase in creeks as been proven to actually help salamanders. Kinda weird, but true.
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
Strangely enough, sediment in creeks is actually a good thing, at least around here. The Appalachian Mountains around Boone, Mtn. City, are a HUGE population area for salamanders, most quite rare. Sediment increase in creeks as been proven to actually help salamanders. Kinda weird, but true.
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if you can sell that to TU and the other enviro-nazis I'll elect you president :lol: it might be true in a very limited environment but what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander.
 
orangecherokee said:
if you can sell that to TU and the other enviro-nazis I'll elect you president :lol: it might be true in a very limited environment but what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander.
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Oh definitely. People in that government crap only look at the super big picture.

Let me chat with a few professors up here at App (Im a Biology minor) and and see what they can suggest as far as run off management and I can send the word to the correct parties.

I'll look into what the planning folks think as far as run off management, as im a Planning major (courtesy of Greg, GSW on the forums)
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
Oh definitely. People in that government crap only look at the super big picture.

Let me chat with a few professors up here at App (Im a Biology minor) and and see what they can suggest as far as run off management and I can send the word to the correct parties.

I'll look into what the planning folks think as far as run off management, as im a Planning major (courtesy of Greg, GSW on the forums)
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Yesssir!

To orangecherokee's point, the regulatory costs of doing things right would likely be substantial. 401/404 stream crossing permits from DWQ(or the TN equivalent), Army Corps review and God forbid you've got a "threatened or endangered species", flora or fauna, because US Fish & Wildlife can seriously take the cake when it comes to stalling or utlimately killing a project.

All that said, I'm really encouraged to hear about the rededication to the overall operation. I understand the price increase and hopefully that combined with a crackdown on trespassing (aka riding w/out paying) will lead to a better experience for all. Now I need to work on getting another rig so I can get back up there. :rolleyes:
 
GubNi said:
To all those that complain about the fees - leave the kids at home. If it's one person the difference is only $4
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:shaking:

who should we leave them with?
Obviously you dont have kids....
 
SkyHiK5 said:
:shaking:
who should we leave them with?
Obviously you dont have kids....
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Duh....Social services. The government will take care of them....no worries:beer:
 
burrellsjeep said:
Lets get back on track...
Doug or anyone who knows,
What is the little water hole at the entrance for?
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Is it run off? In the past it has been dry. Just curious what its for.
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I asked the same question 4th of July weekend and Ronnie said it was going to be a fish pond for the kids? They were putting in a "beach area" so you could put your feet in the water if you wanted to. Dunno that I would.
 
The Idea is to have a fish pond, maybe stocked, for patrons to fish in possible keep and eat, if they wish.

Food for thought:

I understand the possible attraction for the kids, and maybe adults, but most if not all of us go to Callalantee to be up on the mountain wheeling not hanging around in the campground. Money, time and effort may be better spent elsewhere in the campground right now.

Not condemning it at all but it is not what I, nor my wife or son, would go there for.
 
its hard not to sound synical through a keyboard, just an observation though....

if your going charge rates that discourage family outings, dont spend the money raised on family activities.
 
I'm sorry my comment came out pretty rude. I was just trying to point out that the cost will not go up significantly for everyone and there are other options for those who want to keep the cost down.
 
i have no problem with the price increase or them doing any of the upgrades at the camp ground! My only advice that i would like to see is that someone needs to bring into the attetion of the management that people who dont go there and ride alot dont know where in the hell were going! I would love to see some updated maps handed out to all paying guests and some signs in the woods at each trail head so we know where we are and where we are going. Thank you so much for keeping this place going and i hope everything turns out great!
 
New trail markers at EVERY cross point are in the works already. This will not be an overnight process but a work in progress.....
 
GSW said:
To orangecherokee's point, the regulatory costs of doing things right would likely be substantial. 401/404 stream crossing permits from DWQ(or the TN equivalent), Army Corps review and God forbid you've got a "threatened or endangered species", flora or fauna, because US Fish & Wildlife can seriously take the cake when it comes to stalling or utlimately killing a project.
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to get the .gov involved would be bad for business. All I'm suggesting is a little less focus on the crapper and more on the sediment runoff. You don't have to have the ACE in there telling you where to put what. Sediment basins are easy to dig and work fairly well.

Me and the guys I were with all agreed that Callalantee would be closed shortly if that couldn't get a handle on that.
 
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