Any thru hikers?

Something I read the other day....

Starting out on a thru, it's 90% physical and 10% psychological.
Finishing up a thru, it's 90% psychological and 10% physical.

And something from a trail journal online:

What you pack reflects what you fear. Apparently, I fear....

Also, take advantage of Winton Porters shakedown service at Mountain Crossings (30 miles in). Or stop there on the way down. No matter how long you've been hiking, you'll learn something.

To put things in persepective, read Winton's book (Just Passin' Thru by Winton Porter), buy it online or check your library (I got mine to read via interlibrary loan at our community college). It's about the people that pass thru Mountain Crossings. A good read.
 
Something I read the other day....
And something from a trail journal online:

wow both those say a lot in very few words. I will be keeping a trail journal as well as having a GPS on me with live coordinates at all times (for mom and dad mostly); just not sure where I'll be keeping a journal yet. Any recommendations?
 
For socks... I wear a pair of merino liners and Thorlo trekking outers most every time I put on boots.

Merino liners are worth every fawking penny compared to polypropylene. When I bought my first pair, I wore them for three days straight. After day three, you could hold them to your face. Didn't smell at all. Merino also isn't "sticky" like poly.... doesn't cling to your feet the same way.

Oh, and I finally bought a 1" thermarest a couple of years ago, after many years of sleeping on a plain foam pad, ridgerest, etc.

I dunno WTF I was doing all that time. I like the thermarest a lot more. They have the fancy super-thick ones now that might be worth a look, too. Mine's the old-school green full length one. Cyd's got the tapered lightweight one. Hers cost like $25 more, weighs 1lb less.
 
I've done many nights in high school. It's been a year or so since overnight hiked because of college. I backpacked into the Grand Canyon and hiked for 14 days then, but again, had a heavy 4 person tent, boots weren't worth a crap, and my pack barely fit it all. Hiked a bunch of day hikes as well, just don't have much time for long hikes. Spending three nights starting out at Springer Mt this weekend! Can't wait to check it out.

Now that I have the funds, I'm purchasing mostly all new stuff that will hopefully last the whole hike (besides things like boots, socks, ect.)
 
:beer: Good hiking this weekend... we did Cold Mountain/Shining Rock about this time of year... two years ago I think.

I'll back up all that saf-t said, plus add that although hot dinner is awesome after a long day, not having to cook dinner is almost as awesome.
 
:beer: Good hiking this weekend... we did Cold Mountain/Shining Rock about this time of year... two years ago I think.
I'll back up all that saf-t said, plus add that although hot dinner is awesome after a long day, not having to cook dinner is almost as awesome.

I would like to hike Cold Mountain soon. I had a buddy and three friends spend four nights out in that area last weekend, and they loved it.

So cold meals on the trail and wait for a hot one while in the towns? Makes sense and sounds like a good plan. Definitely something to look into.

Thanks:beer:
 
I think I'll go with a thermarest because of the weight as well as the comfort. It's worth a little bit more to me for the light weight and comfort.

Ridgerest (foam) 14oz

Thermarest Prolite 24oz

Thermarest Trail-lite 320z


Foam sleeps just fine for me, and at least 10oz you don't have to lug 2k miles.

And forget the 10oz of bear spray. It's black bears, not grizzlys here. But do read up and practice the PCT method for hanging before you go (google it). Most places I sleep with my food...areas with problem bears (mostly certain shelters, and popular camp areas) I hang it. I almost always avoid shelter areas and well-used campsites, never have a problem.
 
Don't plan on staying at Blood Mountain shelter or the one before it, Woods Hole. They closed those down this year because of bear activity. And trust me, the bear is freaking huge. He visited my wife and I, along with 10 other people, twice in one night at Woods Hole back in May I think it was.

http://atdist.com is a great site for getting route distances before going.

Here's a video I shot of Springer to Neels. Sorry for the shaky-cam, but that's what you get when hauling butt through the woods.

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Click photos for more. There are three albums of photos, one for each day.

If you are being dropped off via the Forest Service road, don't make the mistake of taking a 2wd car. Our Mini loves mud, but had some troubles clearing some holes on the road up to the drop off point.

Some gear you should consider: SPOT (checking with family, sms them for a pullout, contact 911 after bear attack), steripen (nothing but amazing reviews of these from Backpacker magazine), hiking poles (I have no idea how people hike AT without them), Garmin Forerunner 305 (get speeds, time traveled, and track your progress on Google Earth when you get home - add a solar charger to your gear to recharge this each night), and go with extremely lightweight gear.
 
X2 on the hiking poles... forgot about those but they were money well spent! It relieves a lot of the weight from your pack and pressure from long downhills... saves your knees big time and helps with balance.
 
I practice the ultralight and ultra cheap methods. Haha!!!

Do some testing on the Super Cat stove. I'll be using one for an over nighter in the Linville Gorge area in a few weeks. I don't know how it would be for multiple nights though.

Osprey packs are awesome. I use a Talon 44.
Hi-Tec boots work for me. Cheap and light, but I don't know about long distance use.
Hammock camping is awesome. Cheap, light, comfy.

You don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time. All of my gear for a weekend of camping is about 20 lbs. and cost me around 200 bucks.

As for bear spray, I scared/ran one off last year at Hunt Fish Falls by throwing/hitting it with rocks. He deserved it though since he tried to steal my pack!
 
Most places I sleep with my food...areas with problem bears (mostly certain shelters, and popular camp areas) I hang it. I almost always avoid shelter areas and well-used campsites, never have a problem.

Hang food b/c of mice and chipmunks, not bears. Fawking chipmunks will go straight through the side of your pack looking for something to eat.

Biggest driver for me on switching to a Thermarest -- it's about the size of a quart bottle when rolled up. When I switched to the Osprey, I didn't have anywhere to put a 18" long foam roll anymore. Sleeping better was a surprise.
 
Ridgerest (foam) 14oz

Thermarest Prolite 24oz

Thermarest Trail-lite 320z


Foam sleeps just fine for me, and at least 10oz you don't have to lug 2k miles.

Don't forget about the NeoAIR only 14oz and 2.5 inches thick. Best therm-a-rest I've ever had granted it is thinner material so you have to be a little more careful with it.
 
Chipmucks and squirrels will also nibble at a platypus hose at night. I had teeth marks on the nozzle of mine one morning and now I just put it where its hard to get to. I have slept with food a few times and it has always turned out fine (so far), but I wouldn't leave it in a pack and I would definitely hang it up if you were in bear country. X100 on the poles. I dont use them for short trips but I use them for any trip longer than a week. They really do save the knees when going downhill
 
Don't plan on staying at Blood Mountain shelter or the one before it, Woods Hole. They closed those down this year because of bear activity. And trust me, the bear is freaking huge. He visited my wife and I, along with 10 other people, twice in one night at Woods Hole back in May I think it was.
http://atdist.com is a great site for getting route distances before going.
Here's a video I shot of Springer to Neels. Sorry for the shaky-cam, but that's what you get when hauling butt through the woods.
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Click photos for more. There are three albums of photos, one for each day.
If you are being dropped off via the Forest Service road, don't make the mistake of taking a 2wd car. Our Mini loves mud, but had some troubles clearing some holes on the road up to the drop off point.
Some gear you should consider: SPOT (checking with family, sms them for a pullout, contact 911 after bear attack), steripen (nothing but amazing reviews of these from Backpacker magazine), hiking poles (I have no idea how people hike AT without them), Garmin Forerunner 305 (get speeds, time traveled, and track your progress on Google Earth when you get home - add a solar charger to your gear to recharge this each night), and go with extremely lightweight gear.


Thanks for all the advice and pictures man. I've spent the last hour looking through them, and then through them again!

I didn't know Blood Mountain shelter was shut down currently. That is great to know!

I'm for sure going light weight! I went and got a new pair of boots tonight I'll be wearing on the hike, and plan to break them in before hand. Taking them to Springer this weekend to start. I got the Asolo Moran GTX. They feel great, and have awesome ankle support. I have weak ankles, therefore that is one of my biggest factors.

I'll be getting dropped off (obviously lol) in March. For this weekend, we are driving my Jeep down there and parking it at the Amicalola Falls State Park. Going to night hike for a bit tomorrow night (not far, maybe a mile or so) and then wake up Saturday morning and hike as much as possible. We have to be back Sunday night so that limits our hiking time this weekend.

The SPOT is for sure in order. My mother and father want me to have one, as well as myself:beer: I'll also have a GPS on me to track distance and timing. I'm not sure about the solar charger or not yet, I would like to have one with me but not sure how much I need/will use it yet. I guess that comes with the learning process!

Hopefully no need to call 911 because of a bear, but anything can happen! I will have bear spray on me (for peace of mind for my mom). I may end up ditching it at some point, but as for this weekend, and the start of my hike, it will be with me.

I bought some line and another bear bag tonight. Definitely going to put them to use. (I can't walk into REI and come out empty handed!)

I agree about the poles, will never hike without them (expect this weekend because I forget them at my apartment before I came back to Asheville), but will for sure have them on the thru hike.

Thanks again for all the info and advice!


X2 on the hiking poles... forgot about those but they were money well spent! It relieves a lot of the weight from your pack and pressure from long downhills... saves your knees big time and helps with balance.

I agree! Worth the money and SAVES knees! I have bad knees and ankles, therefore poles are a must for me.

I practice the ultralight and ultra cheap methods. Haha!!!

Do some testing on the Super Cat stove. I'll be using one for an over nighter in the Linville Gorge area in a few weeks. I don't know how it would be for multiple nights though.

Osprey packs are awesome. I use a Talon 44.
Hi-Tec boots work for me. Cheap and light, but I don't know about long distance use.
Hammock camping is awesome. Cheap, light, comfy.

You don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time. All of my gear for a weekend of camping is about 20 lbs. and cost me around 200 bucks.

As for bear spray, I scared/ran one off last year at Hunt Fish Falls by throwing/hitting it with rocks. He deserved it though since he tried to steal my pack!

I'm not to sure about the Super Cat. I have one made, but not sure if I will use it or not yet. I like the pocket rocket from REI more and more every time I use it, and of course the T1 spork!

Good to know on the pack, I tried the Osprey and REI Ridgeling on tonight, I like both A LOT! They are letting me put some weight in both next week and put some distance on with them and see which one I like better with weight in them. I'll let you know what I get!

Like I said above, I'm not sure about bear spray, or if I would even think to get it out if I was about to be attacked :rolleyes: but, I'm going to have it on me, and rocks will for sure be used if need be!

Thanks for the advice!


Hang food b/c of mice and chipmunks, not bears. Fawking chipmunks will go straight through the side of your pack looking for something to eat.

Biggest driver for me on switching to a Thermarest -- it's about the size of a quart bottle when rolled up. When I switched to the Osprey, I didn't have anywhere to put a 18" long foam roll anymore. Sleeping better was a surprise.

Good to know about the thermarest. I looked at a bunch of them tonight, and will be going with a thermarest brand, just not sure of which one yet.

Thanks!


Don't forget about the NeoAIR only 14oz and 2.5 inches thick. Best therm-a-rest I've ever had granted it is thinner material so you have to be a little more careful with it.


I looked at the NeoAIR. Not sure I want a air pad or just a regular pad yet. Decision, decisions! Thanks for the input!


Chipmucks and squirrels will also nibble at a platypus hose at night. I had teeth marks on the nozzle of mine one morning and now I just put it where its hard to get to. I have slept with food a few times and it has always turned out fine (so far), but I wouldn't leave it in a pack and I would definitely hang it up if you were in bear country. X100 on the poles. I dont use them for short trips but I use them for any trip longer than a week. They really do save the knees when going downhill

I hope my platypus doesn't get chewed on! After reading this, I'll know to keep it away from those little bastards. Your more brave then I! I don't sleep with food, as when we were camping at Tellico a few years ago, a bear jumped on the tent, popped the air mattress, as well as broke the tent. Woke up everyone, and was shot a few times, then ran back into the woods. Later that night, without anyone hearing it, it came back, scraped the heck out of the side of a truck trying to get in the bed to a cooler (must have been meat or something inside). After that, I keep food FAR away from me!

Thanks for the tips!
 
You can call the AT Conservancy to get more information about bear warnings and such. I would recommend calling them just to double check what other shelters are closed. I would ditch the bear spray. Too much weight and won't likely use it.

The bear entered our camp, covered about 50 yards and was 20 feet up a tree before any of us even had our boots on. Others chased him out of the tree and he hid behind our tent until the other hikers could move him far enough away from our tent so we could get out. He came back about 45 minutes later and tried again for the food. He wasn't afraid of us, but also paid us almost no attention.

When we got to Neels Gap, I talked with a guy that had stayed on Blood Mtn. the night before we meet the bear. The bear was up there that night and got something like 7 packs. The guy I was talking to had a kevlar "bear-proof" food bag. Let's just say it wasn't so bear proof.

Oh, something else that we learned. Take two bear bags, one for food, soap, etc. and one for trash (food wrappers and what not). We only had one bear bag and ended up having to store our trash in with our food at night in the bear bag.

I don't know what speeds you are planning, but don't push it. Our goal was something like 18 miles a day and we killed ourselves trying to reach it. We are both in fairly decent shape, with a good deal of hiking experience, and wish we hadn't tried to cover so much ground. Plan for 10 miles a day on average and you won't blow out your knees or ankles.

If you do get a SPOT, share the tracking page on here. If you are in my neck of the woods and I can make it up, I'll drop by with some food.
 
You can call the AT Conservancy to get more information about bear warnings and such. I would recommend calling them just to double check what other shelters are closed. I would ditch the bear spray. Too much weight and won't likely use it.

The bear entered our camp, covered about 50 yards and was 20 feet up a tree before any of us even had our boots on. Others chased him out of the tree and he hid behind our tent until the other hikers could move him far enough away from our tent so we could get out. He came back about 45 minutes later and tried again for the food. He wasn't afraid of us, but also paid us almost no attention.

When we got to Neels Gap, I talked with a guy that had stayed on Blood Mtn. the night before we meet the bear. The bear was up there that night and got something like 7 packs. The guy I was talking to had a kevlar "bear-proof" food bag. Let's just say it wasn't so bear proof.

Oh, something else that we learned. Take two bear bags, one for food, soap, etc. and one for trash (food wrappers and what not). We only had one bear bag and ended up having to store our trash in with our food at night in the bear bag.

I don't know what speeds you are planning, but don't push it. Our goal was something like 18 miles a day and we killed ourselves trying to reach it. We are both in fairly decent shape, with a good deal of hiking experience, and wish we hadn't tried to cover so much ground. Plan for 10 miles a day on average and you won't blow out your knees or ankles.

If you do get a SPOT, share the tracking page on here. If you are in my neck of the woods and I can make it up, I'll drop by with some food.

It's great to hear your experiences. I hope not to, but know I will, encounter a bear while hiking alone. Hopefully it does the same thing, and ignores me.

I plan on getting a SPOT, or something close to it. The reviews aren't so good on them, but the ones that are good, have saved peoples lives.

This weekend at Springer is more of a hike to know the grounds of where I'll be starting in March. No destination planned, and no amount of miles I plan to cover. Simply hike up to the summit, and a little further in and camp for the night Saturday. Hike back down Sunday and head back. Quick and easy hike, but lets me see where I'll be starting.

When I start the AT, it seems slow, but I'll only be doing 8-10 miles a day for the first 4-6 weeks at least. I don't want to go overkill right off the bat. I'll pick it up to 12-15 a day after a month or so.

Thanks again, and keep it coming. If I get a SPOT, I'll for sure post up the page here!

-Chris
 
I used to pick them up almost every single time I drove back from TN going towards NC. I knew to drop them off at Deer Park NC Post Office. That was a close post to recieve money, food, clothes.
 
I hiked Springer this weekend with a buddy from high school, and his brother-in-law. The first night we stayed at the shelter behind the visitor center at the falls park. Little did I know, that Mike (the brother-in-law) was an alcoholic, and went through a half gallon of the Jamaican rum we had brought for Saturday night when we made it to the Springer Mt. shelter.

The next morning, around 7:30 I got up and packed up my pack to start hiking. David (my buddy), and Mike got up wanting me to drive them to the store so they could buy sausage and cook it for breakfast. I thought they were joking.

With that said, we got on the trail around 9 (without taking a trip to the store) and hiked about 4 - 5 miles in. Both of them were complaining about wanting to set up camp and get to the summit some other time. Again, I disagreed as I wanted to see the summit and the start of the AT before I start in March.

We finally made it to the shelter around 6pm. I hiked most of the approach trail by myself as David and Mike would take off not liking my slow hiking pace, then I would pass them because they were worn out, and then so on a few more times.

They were mad all night because I wanted to hike to the summit and they were going to be "sore" for work Monday and they did not want to hike out. (remember the approach trail is only 8.5 miles!)

Trail Magic as it is said happened at the shelter. I met Thor, a flip-flop thru hiker. He has just got to the shelter after starting his hike April 1st. I talked to him for hours about his hike, gear, and stories of the hike. He said "man, if I could find a way back to Asheville, I would go there since my hike is done and spend a week with a couple I met on the trail who own a bar on the river. They let me stay on their land for two days when I came through Sam's Gap." I was going back to Asheville, and offered him a ride. He said I'll think about what I want to do tonight, and let you know in the morning.

Around 7am Sunday morning, David and Mike hiked the mile or so to the FS road 42 and thumbed back to the parking lot, instead of hiking out with me. Thor had told me is was going to ride with me back to Asheville and hang out with these people for a week or so until he started his next trail (can't remember the name) that is 400 or so miles before he had to be back to work on March 1st.

It was great how the weekend played out. I hiked with Thor from Springer to the park. I learned and heard his opinion on all types of gear, what he though about hiking alone, and much more!

He said he is going to register on here in a few days when he sends in his 2,000 miler application. I hope to find him on here when he does. He was like a walking encyclopedia for me and was great to meet him while I was scoping out Springer before my start in March.

After this weekend, and taking what everyone has said into perspective, I am for sure going to start the trail alone.

It was a great weekend overall and learned a lot in just 48 hours.

Thanks again to everyone who posted!

-Chris
 
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