2019 GMC Sierra/Denali bed and tailgate

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I want to like the innovation, but it seems kinda gimmicky.
I mean if you have the perfect length load maybe those stops are worthwhile
 
I'll tell y'all what I told my buddy a couple of days ago.

They can give me a single tailgate that's made out of metal, and I'll keep a couple of thousand dollars in my pocket.



There are two kinds of pickup truck drivers. There are the ones that use their truck and their tailgate barely works anymore (if there's one at all), and there are the guys who pull trailers. Neither of them needs an eight way adjustable heated power tailgate.
 
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DSM Turbos said:
Come on 100k 1500s. They are coming!
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I think it was 30 years ago - yep, I'm that damn old. My friend bought a brand new black Chevy pickup, regular cab, long bed, 350 V8, standard transmission, 4x4, rubber floor mat, no power locks, no power window, AM/FM radio. IIRC he drove it off the lot for $10k - $12k and he drove, hauled, wheeled and worked the piss out of that truck for years and years.
 
Tailgate is gimmicky. Carbon bed is interesting, but I know enough about composites to realize that it is likely going to be SMC/BMC for rapid manufacturing and shape complexity, and carbon fiber instead of fiberglass for the reinforcement. So it's probably going to be a bulk random fiber instead of an directionally oriented fiber like a woven fabric. It won't look like the carbon fiber that we're used to for hand-layed race parts.

They could do the same thing with something like the Corvette but there is not much need because the panels aren't a stressed part. In that case the only benefit would be to make the panels thinner, but that has an affect on how easily you can get a class-A finish during manufacturing without adding a lot of cost. Again, it wouldn't look like a woven fabric composite so there's no cosmetic benefits, unlike something like the carbon side blades on an Audi R8.
 
How many of y'all haters drive a Cummins and are afraid of change? :flipoff2:
Like it or not, the race to $100k trucks has also poured enough money into truck development that we are approaching 1000ft-lbs from a stock truck and 40k pound towing capacity all with the fanciness of a Bentley. I'm a big fan of proven and reliable, but I also like ventilated seats and a quiet interior. Everything about the new 1/2 ton trucks is significantly better than it was 15 years ago. Those guys paying for an octofold tailgate are helping develop the frame and drivetrain on the base model trucks too.
 
VortecJeep said:
I imagine it is like heated seats. Until you’ve had heated seats, you wonder why the hell does my ass need it’s own heater? But once you’ve had heated seats, you’ll use it a lot.
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Once I got heated leather I realized there was no point having anything but. I'm generally a cheapo but when my wife was getting her acadia I tried to convince her to get the next level up with the leather even though it cost more. She is the type that likes whatever is in front of her rather tHan wait for better, so she got the cloth seats. Now we have a kid and her seats are stained and she wishes she had leather. Sucks to suck babe!
 
awheelterd said:
we have a kid and her seats are stained and she wishes she had leather. Sucks to suck babe!
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Kids will ruin leather seats, too. Ask me how I know.

Leather seats as a premium item are an interesting issue, too. Back in the day, entry level cars all had vinyl seats. They were hot in the summer and cold in the winter, and if you could afford it, you upgraded to cloth seats that were a whole lot more comfortable, if harder to clean. The only car that you knew of that had leather was papaw's Cadillac or Oldsmobile or whatever.

Nowadays, pretty much everything at the bottom end is cloth, and you pay extra to get leather. Then you pay extra again to get air conditioning in the seat so your ass doesn't stick to them. But if you look at the fine print, most times you're only getting leather on the front seats, or on "seating surfaces" or they're "leather trimmed". Bottom line, you're paying extra to get vinyl seats that have some leather.
 
shawn said:
I'm gonna leave the short jokes out of this thread. :flipoff2:
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Have at it. All the new 3/4 ton and up trucks are too tall for anyone who's not an NBA player. I'd like a truck with auto lowering air suspension, Ramboxes, a carbon fiber bed, 6 way tailgate, manual transmission, solid axles, AC seats, 1000ftlbs with a warranty, and about $20k price tag.
 
Composite bed isn't new concept. Tacomas have had the option for a few yrs now atleast.

Seems nice that it won't rust, right until it cracks or busts from something sharp being dropped in it.
 
tlucier said:
I think it was 30 years ago - yep, I'm that damn old. My friend bought a brand new black Chevy pickup, regular cab, long bed, 350 V8, standard transmission, 4x4, rubber floor mat, no power locks, no power window, AM/FM radio. IIRC he drove it off the lot for $10k - $12k and he drove, hauled, wheeled and worked the piss out of that truck for years and years.
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Sounds like a Scottsdale!:bounce2:
 
shawn said:
Kids will ruin leather seats, too. Ask me how I know.

Leather seats as a premium item are an interesting issue, too. Back in the day, entry level cars all had vinyl seats. They were hot in the summer and cold in the winter, and if you could afford it, you upgraded to cloth seats that were a whole lot more comfortable, if harder to clean. The only car that you knew of that had leather was papaw's Cadillac or Oldsmobile or whatever.

Nowadays, pretty much everything at the bottom end is cloth, and you pay extra to get leather. Then you pay extra again to get air conditioning in the seat so your ass doesn't stick to them. But if you look at the fine print, most times you're only getting leather on the front seats, or on "seating surfaces" or they're "leather trimmed". Bottom line, you're paying extra to get vinyl seats that have some leather.
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How bout them clear Plastic seat covers, that were popular in the 60's? Grandma had them!
 
rodney eppes said:
How bout them clear Plastic seat covers, that were popular in the 60's? Grandma had them!
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Now that’s funny! I think my grandpa (pepe - he was French and I’m sure that’s not how you spell grandpa in French - I think there’s an r in there somewhere) but he had some of those clear plastic covers on his Plymouth Volare. He was stylin’!
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
Composite bed isn't new concept. Tacomas have had the option for a few yrs now atleast.

Seems nice that it won't rust, right until it cracks or busts from something sharp being dropped in it.
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I think Honda has been doing it on the Ridgeline for a while. They have some really cool features on the bed of that thing.
 
jeepinmatt said:
I think Honda has been doing it on the Ridgeline for a while. They have some really cool features on the bed of that thing.
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I do like the underbed compartment, and side swing gate.

But I think they would get destroyed with much abuse.
 
rodney eppes said:
How bout them clear Plastic seat covers, that were popular in the 60's? Grandma had them!
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jeepinmatt said:
Everything about the new 1/2 ton trucks is significantly better than it was 15 years ago.
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Except the price tag.

All this fancy shit is great for when I'm ready to take out a mortgage sized loan to buy a damn truck.
The problem is that even just a basic truck isn't affordable anymore either b/c they package all that shit together.
 
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