5.7 Hemi + TJ + No Drive Shaft

[Jakemd98]

OK so I'm going to play devils advocate.

I know Brendan and he has done a little work for me here and there. I am in no way defending him, just want to throw a few thoughts out there.

As far as the DS goes, you say it's the one that came with your kit right? not to quote JF too much but "ever jeep is different". Meaning that a 2" lift causes bad drive-line vibes on some jeeps and others not, D44 causes a jeep to have a different DS length than a D35.... so how can a company sell a standard length DS based on a 4" (or 5 or 6...) kit? Most Double cardin DS kits are measured and built for your specific application...

My next thought, you just put MAJOR HP under the hood. Is it possible that the DS survived because the I6 didn't have enough cajones to tear it up? I mean have you ever looked at a 1500's DS they are massive! and a 2500 DS makes your DS look like a Toothpick. So could it possibly be that the extra HP just set the DS over the edge?

like i said not defending Brendan. I have seen some great stuff leave his garage, and i have seen some shit leave his garage. I am just playing the devils advocate to see if i can provoke some extra thought out of the thread.

 

[ohv_kj]

I wanted to... but it would have been a waste.
It would have cost 1,000 to 2,000 in legal fees, and then he wouldnt have paid me back.
He doesnt have enough assets to sell to pay me back. He rents his shop space..... his truck is over 15 years old... and as young as he is I highly doubt he owns his home either.
The only assets he has are his tools.
I am not out to screw over anybody. His way of doing business will screw him over in due time (supposedly already has). I am not going to waste so much of my money, just to put a debt over his head that I will never collect.
As a matter of fact... I should charge this guy for advertising fees. If you look on Ebay, you will see that he is using photos of MY jeep to advertise that he can perform a Hemi swap for anybody that will give him 11,999.
See below link....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Jeep...QQitemZ220373656054QQptZAutomotiveQ5fServices

speaking of e-bay...he has my jeep up there too...but i made sure that anyone that has an ankling of doing it that they know not to go to bredan, branden, brendan, or what ever the funny looking kids name is

 

[Mac5005]

OK so I'm going to play devils advocate.
I know Brendan and he has done a little work for me here and there. I am in no way defending him, just want to throw a few thoughts out there.
As far as the DS goes, you say it's the one that came with your kit right? not to quote JF too much but "ever jeep is different". Meaning that a 2" lift causes bad drive-line vibes on some jeeps and others not, D44 causes a jeep to have a different DS length than a D35.... so how can a company sell a standard length DS based on a 4" (or 5 or 6...) kit? Most Double cardin DS kits are measured and built for your specific application...
My next thought, you just put MAJOR HP under the hood. Is it possible that the DS survived because the I6 didn't have enough cajones to tear it up? I mean have you ever looked at a 1500's DS they are massive! and a 2500 DS makes your DS look like a Toothpick. So could it possibly be that the extra HP just set the DS over the edge?
like i said not defending Brendan. I have seen some great stuff leave his garage, and i have seen some shit leave his garage. I am just playing the devils advocate to see if i can provoke some extra thought out of the thread.

The 1500 and 2500 driveshafts are aluminum.

Steel d/s are much stronger, and 1500 and 2500 driveshafts are slip yoke style, not double -cardan.

Comparing Apples to Oranges.

 

[Road_Warrior85]

OK so I'm going to play devils advocate.
I know Brendan and he has done a little work for me here and there. I am in no way defending him, just want to throw a few thoughts out there.
As far as the DS goes, you say it's the one that came with your kit right? not to quote JF too much but "ever jeep is different". Meaning that a 2" lift causes bad drive-line vibes on some jeeps and others not, D44 causes a jeep to have a different DS length than a D35.... so how can a company sell a standard length DS based on a 4" (or 5 or 6...) kit? Most Double cardin DS kits are measured and built for your specific application...
My next thought, you just put MAJOR HP under the hood. Is it possible that the DS survived because the I6 didn't have enough cajones to tear it up? I mean have you ever looked at a 1500's DS they are massive! and a 2500 DS makes your DS look like a Toothpick. So could it possibly be that the extra HP just set the DS over the edge?
like i said not defending Brendan. I have seen some great stuff leave his garage, and i have seen some shit leave his garage. I am just playing the devils advocate to see if i can provoke some extra thought out of the thread.

It's Ok to be Devils Advocate a little....
Brendan does do some great work.... when he does it.... or maybe i should say when he wants to do it.

Brendan doesnt realize that having his own shop does not mean he doesnt work for anybody.
Any person who brings him a vehicle is his boss. He is doing a job for them and it should meet their standards, as well as desires.
Brendan doesnt have much a work ethic. He thinks he can work on whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and it doesnt matter what the customer's expectations are.
That will never work for a successful business.
Even though he does have the ability to do good work/fabrication.

Now, I know that every jeep is different, but the distance and angle from Tcase to Axle can't be that much different from stock jeep to stock jeep. I can understand that sometimes there is a difference, but I really dont see how there could be enough difference to affect a drive shaft like that.

The power issue was my first thought.... but then when we did the measuring we new that couldnt be the case. Sitting on level ground, that CV joint had to flex 100% to rotate. If my axle drooped ANY it would have to bind to some degree. Since my axle doesnt droop much driving up and down the highway, it wasnt a big issue (not quickly at least) but had I gone off roading, I would have probably broken it the first day.
Plus, I never really got to torque on it enough to risk damage. I have only had it for about 2000 miles since the swap was done. 800 of which being one way trip as my family brought it back to NC when I got back from Afghanistan.

 

[Bryan]

During my 318 swap CF4X4 moved my front drive shaft to the rear due to it's being a bit beefier. Simple idea, but effective. And due to the fact that every Jeep is different the mechanic should measure angles and line them up on an individual basis. The problem with someone who depends on the internet to do custom work is that they're not going to think outside of that box someone else created.

 

[Road_Warrior85]

During my 318 swap CF4X4 moved my front drive shaft to the rear due to it's being a bit beefier. Simple idea, but effective. And due to the fact that every Jeep is different the mechanic should measure angles and line them up on an individual basis. The problem with someone who depends on the internet to do custom work is that they're not going to think outside of that box someone else created.

I dont know if that last part was supposed to be an insult or not.

Yeah, you would think that Brendan would have measured all that when he did the swap, but he didnt. Sure, a guy helping you out of his garage might not, but an established shop should.

I can't quite picture a front shaft fitting the rear end of a TJ though. Maybe I dont think outside of the box enough, but I know my front shaft is MUCH longer than my rear. Considering the fact that my rear shaft was a FULL compression, I would hate to imagine putting the front shaft in place of my rear.

 

[Jakemd98]

Sure, a guy helping you out of his garage might not, but an established shop should.

hmm... there's your first problem.

I can't quite picture a front shaft fitting the rear end of a TJ though. Maybe I dont think outside of the box enough, but I know my front shaft is MUCH longer than my rear. Considering the fact that my rear shaft was a FULL compression, I would hate to imagine putting the front shaft in place of my rear.

I'm pretty sure he means that he had the front drive-shaft cut down to basically give him a double cardan drive shaft on a budget.

 

[Bryan]

I dont know if that last part was supposed to be an insult or not.

I can't quite picture a front shaft fitting the rear end of a TJ though. Maybe I dont think outside of the box enough, but I know my front shaft is MUCH longer than my rear. Considering the fact that my rear shaft was a FULL compression, I would hate to imagine putting the front shaft in place of my rear.

No, it wasn't meant as an insult. And no you don't think outside of the box enough lol.

hmm... there's your first problem.
I'm pretty sure he means that he had the front drive-shaft cut down to basically give him a double cardan drive shaft on a budget.

Hell yeah that is the first of many problems Jake.
And precisely, it was cut down to fit the rear.