Adding parking space in yard

77GreenMachine

77GreenMachine

Phillip Talton
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Trinity, NC
So I’m destroying my yard with the in and out of my Jeep/truck/trailer. Obviously it’s wetter than normal currently, but even normal conditions is a lot traffic on my yard. I have Randolph County red dirt, that’s normally pretty firm. My thoughts are to get a tractor and cut off 3-4” off in the area I want and then spread crusher run out. I can push the dirt off the hillside so I don’t even have to haul it off. Roughly a 50’x30’ area that will connect to my driveway. I will be moving the fire pit so ignore that. I have marked the areas best I could. Anything I should consider? This will obviously take place later after it has dried up a bit.

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I think I need about 25-30 tons based on some calculations.


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Crusher run would normally be great for that. But this year? The wettest year in recorded history? And with OUR soil?

IMHO To do it RIGHT you need to start with 4" of railroad ballast, followed by plenty of compaction. Then another 3" (min) of crusher run to filter thru the RR ballast base

@rodney eppes am I wrong?
 
I will wait till it drys out. I’m not sure what is best by any means. I talked to a few folks that said crusher run would be great, then maybe put a dressing stone over that later if I wanted it to look better.
 
Your plan is solid. From the first pic it looks like water may run along those Leylands towards the end of the driveway and then off the hill down the slope. Is that correct? If so try to push that drainage towards the slope quicker so it doesn't run through your new gravel. Do the 4" at the end of the driveway but as you get further away, just clear the vegetation and get to solid soil but at least to a 2" depth. Use C&R as a base and then sprinkle some #67 or #78 washed stone on top to make it more purty.
 
Unless the subgrade is compromised, ballast isn’t really needed. Just make sure it’s dry and compacted.

Be sure to put some fabric down first or you’ll always be fighting weeds and it will help to stabilize the area a little. I’d use some 8oz+ fabric.

Crusher run, abc, abc-m, etc all works well for a road base as long as you compact it well.
 
Put a hard edge at least on the house side.
Otherwise it will creep and your lawn mower will pick it up.

Whether thats a redneck cross timber edge or some decorative pavers.
 
rockcity said:
Unless the subgrade is compromised, ballast isn’t really needed.
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I don't disagree. Under NORMAL circumstances, Richards suggestion would be perfectly fine. But then again, in 2 days I've passed 4 cars buried up to their frame that were just driving in the grass

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One being a $100k F450 Platinum dually in the grass between I-40 and the 26 split that @Jason W. @josh$$ and I all were amazed at

I can't imagine attempting to stabilize the ground for vehicle travel anytime in the next several months under current conditions...hence why I suggested ballast
 
I can get Mirafi 500X for $219 for a roll that is 12’x432’. So much more than I need, but I know in the long run it would make a substantial difference.

Might be able to get a damaged roll. @CasterTroy would you have a need for leftover fabric in the future with your upcoming plans?
 
@fourtrax not a bad idea.

This project will definitely not be happening for a few months at this rate.

I sell commercial Contruction materials, and know plenty of folks to do the site work. I also have great relationships with them to barrow equipment and would enjoy doing it myself and saving some coin.

Soon as it gets dry enough I plan to address it. If I needed my truck right now, I’d tear my yard up so bad! It is still sitting where it’s at in the pics and the Jeep is still on the trailer. I can’t even unload it Without ruining my yard. Once I do this I’ll start backing the truck/trailer in and hope to not have this issue anymore.

I have decided I will be putting the fabric down for sure.
 
CasterTroy said:
I don't disagree. Under NORMAL circumstances, Richards suggestion would be perfectly fine. But then again, in 2 days I've passed 4 cars buried up to their frame that were just driving in the grass

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One being a $100k F450 Platinum dually in the grass between I-40 and the 26 split that @Jason W. @josh$$ and I all were amazed at

I can't imagine attempting to stabilize the ground for vehicle travel anytime in the next several months under current conditions...hence why I suggested ballast
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We had a neighbor with a Taurus stuck in the front yard for a few weeks here. I so wanted to snap a pic and post in the random pic thread, but it seemed it was always dark when I went by. Finally it ended up back in the driveway, but the ruts, filled with water, and random extraction boards are still there.
 
77GreenMachine said:
I can get Mirafi 500X for $219 for a roll that is 12’x432’. So much more than I need, but I know in the long run it would make a substantial difference.

Might be able to get a damaged roll. @CasterTroy would you have a need for leftover fabric in the future with your upcoming plans?
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I may need some of that fabric too.
 
CasterTroy said:
I don't disagree. Under NORMAL circumstances, Richards suggestion would be perfectly fine. But then again, in 2 days I've passed 4 cars buried up to their frame that were just driving in the grass

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One being a $100k F450 Platinum dually in the grass between I-40 and the 26 split that @Jason W. @josh$$ and I all were amazed at

I can't imagine attempting to stabilize the ground for vehicle travel anytime in the next several months under current conditions...hence why I suggested ballast
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That guy in the ford had tried hard, so hard he buried it to the bumpers,,, dumbass
 
77GreenMachine said:
@fourtrax not a bad idea.

This project will definitely not be happening for a few months at this rate.

I sell commercial Contruction materials, and know plenty of folks to do the site work. I also have great relationships with them to barrow equipment and would enjoy doing it myself and saving some coin.

Soon as it gets dry enough I plan to address it. If I needed my truck right now, I’d tear my yard up so bad! It is still sitting where it’s at in the pics and the Jeep is still on the trailer. I can’t even unload it Without ruining my yard. Once I do this I’ll start backing the truck/trailer in and hope to not have this issue anymore.

I have decided I will be putting the fabric down for sure.
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In not the too distant future the ground will get froze pretty good. If you want to unload and reposition your truck/trailer/Jeep, that would be the time to do it
 
I may be needing to take the jeepnojt this weekend so it may get interesting!

What do y’all think about a full sized dump truck backing up my driveway and dumping at the end? My knowledge tells me absolutely not but a few people are saying it will be fine. Just a 4” slab that I’m positive has no reinforcement whatsoever, and sloped quite a bit. If it breaks my driveway then my $500 project just got quadrupled.
 
So Much Good here! I haven't even heard or seen the geo stuff. I tend to agree more with RQ than Troy. from the pictures, you have a sloop & most of the water is running off! The pictures look Dry, compared to most of us, right now!
Fabric does make a difference, & edging is a plus! I'd try to go 6", & as long as you can get to dry dirt, I think you'd be safe to do it. Six inches gives you more depth to fill with what you need. If you can find a Supplier with crushed concrete, it would be a much cheaper option. Still using the crusher run / ABC. Do 4", & get it compacted good, or let it sit & drive on it, til it stops settling. Then you can top it off with wash stone [granite] # 67 or # 57. You might want to top it first with just 1", & let it get packed in. Then you can decide on more. Sometimes, 2" or more stone, will act like marbles, & pulling the loaded trailer through, off or on, could get the tow vehicle spinning in the marbles!
 
rodney eppes said:
I tend to agree more with RQ than Troy
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That's why I pulled you in here :huggy:

I started with crushed concrete. It proved to be not enough and had to go back with ballast. That was just MY experience. You're far more experienced than I, as you've seen many many MANY years of this, as I've only seen what I've dealt with
 
77GreenMachine said:
I may be needing to take the jeepnojt this weekend so it may get interesting!

What do y’all think about a full sized dump truck backing up my driveway and dumping at the end? My knowledge tells me absolutely not but a few people are saying it will be fine. Just a 4” slab that I’m positive has no reinforcement whatsoever, and sloped quite a bit. If it breaks my driveway then my $500 project just got quadrupled.
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Wait until summer time and use a smaller dump truck.
 
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