Are you tagged heavy enough?

I researched before removing my fenders on my trailer going on 10 years ago and TN and VA are indeed required (fenders and flaps) where as NC was not. That rule is likely to change here too? And I can't remember my source? Pretty sure it was an assumption by taking the word on some towing site, I think a diesel forum. I know Peterson's 4wd had an issue with all the rules for trailering per state about the same time to confirm my findings before I pulled them. I run rooster tails I bet 30 feet high in the rain.:shaking:
But you couldn't even imagine all the weight I have hauled with standard tags. And I will be hauling the next 2 or 3 Saturdays. As everybody knows, if you have a trailer, you have side jobs galore. My neighbor (who just moved away) has been on the Durham police force for a pretty good while and he told me "as long as you look like you know what you are doing and obeying the rules of the road that they (I'm guessing he meant "he") won't pull non commercial vehicles at tow". I even moved his 8x12 storage shed for him with him following me (in his minivan). I guess the RDU area has way more important things to chase instead and I have passed a many policeman with sucked up cheeks.
Even though I have not purchased them, doesn't mean that I don't know I'm in the wrong and heed the advice for the mentioned counties. But since I purchased my bobcat, I've scored a few side jobs and plan on purchasing soon considering the load. And figure that since I've gotten lucky for going on 10 years that the tags will be pretty much paid for a while anyways.
I know there's policemen on this site but I still think it's fair to ask for a "heads up" from everybody for all the counties desperate for money and watching for offenders right now.:beer:
 
GubNi said:
Thanks. Didn't know that. I thought only commerical use required the weighted tag.
Where did you find that about the mud flaps?
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Not sure. I was flipping through the DMV site looking for specifics on the truck tags... saw something about how if it had a payload capacity of 3k or greater, had to have an 'adequate' mudflap that covered the full width of the tire, etc.
 
Blkvoodoo said:
If you are using your pick-up truck for anything more than a passenger car, YES, you need weighted tags.
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Screw that, I've got plates on the truck and plates on the truck I'm towing, those plates combined should be fine.

I know I probably should get weighted tags on my truck, but I just am so hesitant to give the coffers any more of my hard earned money.
 
Blaze said:
I know I probably should get weighted tags on my truck, but I just am so hesitant to give the coffers any more of my hard earned money.
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You can give it to them begrudgingly, and pay a small fee, compared to what they WILL TAKE when they nail you for being over weight. I can promise you, it'll be at least double what you would have paid voluntarily, probably more.

being towed means its cargo, tag or not, you're using the lead vehicle to haul a load.

I don't make the rule's, hell I don't necessarily LIKE the rules, but it's the game we gotta play
 
GubNi said:
It seems like if the trailer is tagged then that tag should cover the weight on the trailer.
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trailer tag isn't weighted, only towing vehicle, so the tag has to cover towing vehicle and load it carries.

NC has a "Forever tag" for trailers, $75 one time fee, and no renewal, as long as you own the trailer. no matter the size

Does not apply to campers and RV's
 
See, that's just stupid. If I have legal tags and insurance on both vehicles, then I've already paid my road use tax and the only thing that should be counted as extra weight is the dolly. I can understand a heavy trailer with a truck on it, but a dolly, come on.
 
Blaze said:
See, that's just stupid. If I have legal tags and insurance on both vehicles, then I've already paid my road use tax and the only thing that should be counted as extra weight is the dolly. I can understand a heavy trailer with a truck on it, but a dolly, come on.
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just to feed the fire...if you're using a dolly, i think the dollied vehicle has to have a tag, otherwise you're supposed to ge tti off the ground, ie full trailer.

I played the gambling game for too long, finally folded and bought weighted tags last year. 13k cost $130 I think. I never had my truck inspected, but it seems like when I changed tags, it brought me back in to the DMV's inspection radar.
 
Years ago. (back in NY) they did allow your to declare weight on the trailer tag. But they found they could make more money on the truck it self. Especially when it was very common for big rigs to have trailers tagged in Maine, where the trailer registration/inspection process is all but non-existent (flat fee sorta thing).
 
I just bought an 05 Ram 2500 in August. Told the dealer I wanted a tag to be able to tow 10,000 lbs, so I am figuring I would get a weighted tag for 17,000. Idiot at the dealer does the paperwork and when I get my tag and registration, it was for only 7,000! My 2500 has a shipping weight of 6800 lbs empty, I could have gotten a ticket if I had another person riding in the truck with me! So I had to make the trip to the tag office and change it to 17,000. What a pain, but I don't want a ticket.
 
Yager's old '95 Chevy c2500 pickup w/ camper top, 18' xtra wide car trailer, Yager's 'ol KW Sleeper on front, CJ or Yager's 'ol Red YJ...whichever we got runnin' at the moment...15K Commercial "Farm" Tags on truck...see a pattern above?...what can I say, I am a junk collector...:lol:

...been pulled over 1 time so far...& the answer to the DMV officer is "No, you are not racing"...that is considered a "for profit business" & then they really consider your rig a revenue source...You are using your rig Strictly for Recreation...he asked some questions, checked everything, came back and said have a nice day...maybe it was my lucky day...dunno.

Also the "permanent" trailer tag is a good deal if you gonna keep your trailer for a good while...I didn't get that from the start, but wish I had...it wouldve paid for itself long ago...I guess you can switch it, I just keep renewing it though...the DMV is painful enough at that...
 
Only thing we tow anymore is the boat, wonder how hard they watch for Toyota Tundras pulling boats that are twice the weight of the truck....

I really dislike the idea of paying for a 17k lb tag to tow a boat, but I guess it's about time to start coughing up more cash in the name of fishing. Effing boo... Anybody know the requirements for getting a wrecker tag? Unlimited weight would be nice just for fluctuations in what's on the trailer, but a Tundra with a Holmes body would look retarded. Lady at the local DMV office and two state troopers didn't know for sure when I asked.
 
If I'm not mistaken you don't have to be weighted to pull a boat unless you fish for profit.

What got this started I was pulling my skid steer 9,300 lbs, trailer 3k lbs, truck 9,500lbs, and a couple hundred pounds in tools. Totaling right around 22,000 lbs. He asked me what I was tagged for and I said 20k lbs. He looked at my setup back and forth and said I believe your alright. He didn't even pull the scales on me. Holy carap did I get lucky considering I just raised my tag limit from 17k a couple months ago. Then I asked him about my buddy that got a ticket in morganton pulling a rock crawler he said yep I wrote him for 3k over his tag limit which is only about $60 bucks. That isn't bad but I bet he gets his tag run by that same cop if he ever sees him around town again to see if he raised his tag weight.
 
DemonDave said:
Anybody know the requirements for getting a wrecker tag? Unlimited weight would be nice just for fluctuations in what's on the trailer,
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That *would* be nice...but I bet your insurance bill would go sky-high.

I looked at a flat bed (fixed, not tilt) that used to be a rollback. Insurance was gonna be $3k a year, since it was still technically a "rollback" in the eyes of the insurance company.
 
What's the deal with farm tags? Any sort of weight limits on those?


I put 13K tags on my M1008. It weighs 6000 lbs empty with myself and a full tank of fuel. I was very surprised that it was that light, especially with 1200lbs of Cummins up front, an NV4500 and an NP205...but that just means I can haul more :driver: I think the heaviest I've been so far is 15,500 or so. I'll just take the chance on 13K tags....they're $123 IIRC to renew and the jump to 14K was a helluva lot more. Most of the time, if I'm hauling, it's a car or truck. I figured 2000lbs for the trailer (it might be less) 6K for the truck, that lets me legally haul 5000 lbs. Works pretty good for me, I've only been overweight twice anyway.
 
IIRC, farm tags are restricted to use within 100 miles of where they are registered. If you lived in Moab, you'd be good :), but seeing how you are in New Bern, you're at least 943 miles from any rocks larger than a baseball, so the farm tag would not work for you :D
 
kaiser715 said:
That *would* be nice...but I bet your insurance bill would go sky-high.
I looked at a flat bed (fixed, not tilt) that used to be a rollback. Insurance was gonna be $3k a year, since it was still technically a "rollback" in the eyes of the insurance company.
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Hadn't thought about it from that angle, and dont' recall my ramp bodied truck being that outrageous to insure. But either way it looks like I need more tag. Boat with all three gas tanks full, gear, ice, trailer, and 30 gallons in the fresh water tank is right around 12,500lbs, give or take for amount of gear, and the 'yota is somewhere in the area of 5,000 with no people or stuff. This is gunna suck.... :poop:
 
They changed the license laws after that. Now you can tow anything you want up to a GCVW of 26k with a class C license.
 
Weight is no longer an issue with me.......a cool 25,000 commercial farm tag with a not so cool $300 tag fee. Expensive yes, but much cheaper than the $1400 ticket my buddy got slammed with!!! Been running way too long overweight, and the weigh man is getting hot around here.
 
I run a 17k, i've been over a few times, but for the most part it will cover anything I pull. I didn't wanna go over the 17,001 price change unless i really needed it.
 
I'm not sure why anyone would even bother risking it to tow w/out the proper tags. It's no coincidence that the right thing to do (obey the law) also makes the most sense (pay the fee and have peace of mind vs. drive scared/pay the huge fine/delays/hassle of a ticket). Just a tad over $200 for my 15k tag.
 
I would run farm tags, but like I said, we're just under the land requirement to be able to run them. Not sure what the rocks have to do with it :driver: I don't have a wheelin rig to tow anyway....the tow rig and the wheelin rig are one and the same!
 
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