Asheville man in deep do do...enter for discussion

Judging by just the video they both were the aggressor. He should have not gotten involved inside the circle unless physical harm was occurring or about to occur to someone. He should have called the police and let them handle what ever was occurring. If the group was just verbally assaulting someone he should have stayed outside the circle and got their attention as he notified leo.

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UTfball68 said:
Beyond that, it's 2019, equality and whatnot, race and gender shouldn't be a factor.
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She identifies as a a man when she walked up with her dukes up ready to hit him. Also looks like he was defending himself from a gang. I don't say that cause she was black but because a group of people in that mentality could all gang up on him.
 
iwaxmyjimmy said:
I was raised to never hit a woman, but I have a feeling those hood rats would have tried to jump him if he didn’t give that chick a dirt nap. They were all out there hyping it up, when really the cops should have been called and escorted them off the property if they were causing a disturbance. But shout, shove, and then punch is technically escalation of force... they kept coming back, and shoved him a few times it seems. How can that not be considered self defense? Obviously he’s of larger statue, but there were a bunch of them..... well minus that one, lol.
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He's the horse-sized duck, and they are the 100 duck sized horses.
 
His technique was pretty sharp. Really surprised me with that heavy left hand. It looked like he was ready with the right in case it was on like donkey kong.

Reminds me of Mickey from SNATCH when he accidentally one punch KOs the guy he is supposed to fall for lol

Woopsie daisy :D

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RatLabGuy said:
He's the horse-sized duck, and they are the 100 duck sized horses.
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Fifteen 90lb preteens stomping out a 250lb man doesn’t sound to far fetched either... all it took was one person to grab an object and hit him from behind. This is why I can’t say he used excessive force. He didn’t know what the outcome was going to be. He made a judgment call I can understand, maybe because I’ve been jumped before. Kicked some underaged kids out of a kegger. They waited at the end of the street till everyone left. They were actually high schoolers, 2 went to the hospital because their lips were stuck in their braces. I only know because I had nurse friends who knew what happened. Kids kept their mouth shut but they learned a lesson that day.
 
Jody Treadway said:
What say ye
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Bitch got knocked da fawwwkk out!

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As stated in some of these responses the man may have been trying to intervene between a bigger altercation that was about to happen and I myself may have tried to step in and defend an individual being ganged up on by a group, black or white... Sometimes you can't look the other way.

I will say this, not to bring up some heated arguments from another thread, but I have found myself being a little more cautious of certain people. Seems some people take things further than others, just a few weeks ago I had to deal with two younger female employees threatening to cut babies out of each other on the plant floor because they were fathered by the same "boo" who worked in our maintenance department and let's just say liked to spread his seed... Needless to say, none of them work for me anymore. There's some things you just don't wake up in the morning and think you'll have to deal with but life is full of surprises!
 
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GONOVRIT said:
I’ve read in several places the girls were harassing his wife and daughter. I’m along the lines of you come at me or my family and I’ll do what I feel is necessary to defend them/me.
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This.

He REACTED to the situation. Should he have attempted to avoid the situation? Of course. Maybe he did try to avoid it. Regardless, he stopped the threat. The age is somewhat important, but as has been pointed out, a large group of 12 year olds could be pretty violent. He sent the message that they should rethink their next steps and avoided a larger confrontation. Plus the girl learned something valuable.

He is a piano teacher without any history of assault. I’m guessing by the actions of the “children” in the video, they likely do have some sort of history of lack of respect and tendency of violence. He did what he needed to do to protect himself and others. On a side note, my children have never been hit like that. I surmise it’s because they’ve never acted like that. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
UTfball68 said:
Would that have been my reaction, magic 8 ball says no. However, always believed if you wanna act grown, you get to deal with grown consequences. Beyond that, it's 2019, equality and whatnot, race and gender shouldn't be a factor.
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Can’t have it both ways you want to be treated as an equal. You walk up and swing at me I’ll swing back but I won’t start it


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That was a heavy left :eek: and speaking of heavy lefts, I'm afraid the ole boy isn't going to fair well in the Asheville judicial scene.

There's not enough evidence at this point to make a decision. Too much hearsay and the fact I can't hear shit on that video. Who knows what was said. Obviously, the guy felt that it warranted a shove and a follow-up left hook.

The one question I have is, where was Paul Blart at during this whole thing?
 
A man hopes he reacts in a certain way, but never really knows how he will react until he is forced to. If there are laws in place to keep children below "xx" age from being unsupervised at the mall, that law should be enforced as much as the assault charges that have been brought against the man. He should have never been put to that decision. Parents need to be held accountable for their children's actions.
 
Here comes the BOOM was an entertaining movie.

Paul Blart - not so much.

Anyways, hindsight is 20/20. It's easy to make a correct decision based on all the facts afterwards(or what you think are the facts). In the heat of the moment, you deal with what you know, and what you feel may happen, is happening, or will happen and react how you feel you ought to.

And there is nothing morally wrong with stopping a woman who is attacking you.

Chivalry does not demand that you get your ass beat because of the aggressors chromosomes.
 
I just dont think the video or news links give enough info for me. He shouldnt have put himself in that situation. Maybe he didnt and it unfolded around him. I think there is a difference in being legally justified and morally justified.
 
Dylan W. said:
Lets for a minute, ask ourselves. If he hadn't punched her block off....Wonder what the outcome would have been if the girl would have landed her punch, or clawed his eyes out? Any backlash?
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And with a mob, one gets brave and gets away with it, it will motivate the others to join.
 
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I'll say it like this, and this is from experience. When you're dealing with lowlife hoodrat pieces of garbage surrounding you, if they still feel outgunned they will very quickly call in more guns until you have no chance of survival. Guaranteed, they were on the phone with a bunch of thugs watching it live on social media. What it boils down to is, handle the situation quickly with only one person getting minorly hurt, or delay it....and end up getting killed yourself. Fuck being at anyone's mercy.
Props to him. Wish the best.
 
"None of the other alleged assaults are depicted in the video that's been viewed hundreds of thousands of times on social media and drawn wide condemnation and debate."

Of course not. Why show the other side of the story? Just isolate the part that shows your side, and play the victim when things go bad. Clearly no one else did anything wrong except the old white guy. :rolleyes:
 
In my world, there’s no exceptions, no excuses, you do not strike a female! Especially a kid! That child would have barely been able to reach his head and personally unless multiple attacker’s were on one person in that situation which I don’t know, he should have stayed the fuck out of it!
I corrected a guy cussing and pushing his gf at my job when younger, guess what his girl told me 8 years later that he had never layed a hand on her since and agologized for that night more times then she could remember! He slept on sidewalk for awhile bc I lost my cool and slammed him on his head, after a straight left bc the punch wasn’t gonna do justice he was a little bigger then me. I didnt know him or her personally she was an employee with me tho. And he needed a lesson taught, but I grew up getting my ass beat by my dad while protecting my ma bc he would beat her like a dog when he was drunk, so it may just be personal to me honestly!? He quit that shit when I hit age 10 and ended up splitting his head open with a bat one day after being thrown through a storm glass door! He never hit a woman again to my knowledge but I didn’t see him for 15 years after that so who the hell knows. His wife before he passed few years ago said he regretted all he use to do tho and I taught him a lesson that day so no excuses imo pay the piper and mind ya own damn business!
 
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Jody Treadway said:
According to basically every non-media source up here, yes.
According to the media, he punched her for no reason at all.
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I watched the video from the link and he is shoved by a girl in black sleeves (can't see her face to know if it's the same one) before he shoves her. I can't tell what instigated him to shove her back, but they obviously were of the mind-set that "even though he's bigger, we have the numbers". Until she got knocked da fug out.

I've only been in a handful of fights in my lifetime. The only time I ever took on a significantly larger opponent. I pretty much knew I was going to get my ass kicked.... and I did.... but my pride got in the way and I felt I had to fight or be perceived as a coward (he had insulted my girlfriend). In these girls' case, it's pure bravado with nothing to back it up.

I do feel as though even though these girls may only "be" 12 years old, they are acting the part of someone much older and he shouldn't be held responsible for hitting a "child". Assault on a female is one thing, but I personally think that should be open to interpretation since she struck first. (or at least someone in her party). Again, I don't justify random assault on a female, or child, but there is definitely some instigation on her part.
 
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