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[RatLabGuy]

Finland is one of the countries that are considered part of the "Nordic Model".
Finland, Iceland, Switzerland, etc.
They were socialist in the 50s-60s ... and successful ... but as their wealth dropped they realized early on that true socialism does not work.
Switzerland was at one time the wealthiest nation in the world and after becoming 100% socialist slipped to 14th in about 10 years.
They quietly stepped away from socialism as they developed the Nordic Model.
It's a Welfare State. Funded by free enterprise.
Free open enterprise and capitalism with the holy crap taxed out of it.
These Nordic Model countries are also the highest taxed in the world ..... commercially and personal.
They also have the highest number per capita of medically treated depression cases in the world.

There is a reason we have the American Dream ...... it's still the best place to be.

And yet, of all of my friends that are Finnish, Swedish, Dane.... never has one of them said they would rather live anywhere else, or wish they were American. In fact I have had several say, "I don't understand why people would want to live in your country."
They also have a higher average life expectancy rate than us.
I don't recall having a problem with Fins lining up at our border or them having to put up a fence to keep people in.

Just saying... sometimes people don't mind the taxes when they recognize what they get in return. Our model isn't necessarily the best for everyone. Not everyone measures quality of life in how much money you can make.

Oh BTW that depression rate - it's tied to the long winters, "Seasonal Affective Disorder". Also happens in Alaska and Russia.

 

[DSM Turbos]

And yet, of all of my friends that are Finnish, Swedish, Dane.... never has one of them said they would rather live anywhere else, or wish they were American. In fact I have had several say, "I don't understand why people would want to live in your country."
They also have a higher average life expectancy rate than us.
I don't recall having a problem with Fins lining up at our border or them having to put up a fence to keep people in.

Just saying... sometimes people don't mind the taxes when they recognize what they get in return. Our model isn't necessarily the best for everyone. Not everyone measures quality of life in how much money you can make.

Oh BTW that depression rate - it's tied to the long winters, "Seasonal Affective Disorder". Also happens in Alaska and Russia.

One of my good friends is danish, he moved to the US, and hates the way the way things are ran over there and would never move back. Everybody though is different.

 

[awheelterd]

And yet, of all of my friends that are Finnish, Swedish, Dane.... never has one of them said they would rather live anywhere else, or wish they were American. In fact I have had several say, "I don't understand why people would want to live in your country."
They also have a higher average life expectancy rate than us.
I don't recall having a problem with Fins lining up at our border or them having to put up a fence to keep people in.

Just saying... sometimes people don't mind the taxes when they recognize what they get in return. Our model isn't necessarily the best for everyone. Not everyone measures quality of life in how much money you can make.

Oh BTW that depression rate - it's tied to the long winters, "Seasonal Affective Disorder". Also happens in Alaska and Russia.

my no.1 refrigeration tech is from Norway and wouldn't go back if you threatened his life. He says the only good thing about over there is that it's pretty in the summer time. Everything else sucks.

 

[ManglerYJ]

Just saying... sometimes people don't mind the taxes when they recognize what they get in return. Our model isn't necessarily the best for everyone. Not everyone measures quality of life in how much money you can make.

Dude...... we started a war over a 3 shilling tax per pound of tea! And it wasn't even good tea!

 

[Ron]

Its definitely a different way of life.
The rep for one of my suppliers is from Finland. She says there is good and bad.
Its a different way of life. Every employee is mandated by federal law to take 5 weeks of vacation per year. You can stack those, but you cant work more than something like 12 or maybe 15 weeks straight without taking a week off. In addition to 5 weeks vacation there are 13 additional federal holidays where all business is closed.

There work hours are 9-3:30.

As a culture they are taught to ridicule idiots like me who are work-a-holics and pay raises are with held for over work.
As ratty said, they have one of the longest life expectancies in the world...and they are also fairly progressive medically believing in optimized health not just sick treatment. So when you say they take a ton of anti-depressants...its true. The seasonal thing is a huge component. The other component is the doctor's dont ask "Do you feel down" they ask "Could you feel better" its just a different approach.

Im not sure its all bad.

 

[Lizooki]

Nobody is flocking to Finland either.
But my point remains ..... they are not socialist ..... they realized it doesn’t work.

 

[Ron]

Nobody is flocking to Finland either.

actually....

It was a huge problem until they basically locked the borders down. Probably the toughest country in the world to migrate to.

 

[No fries]

Dude...... we started a war over a 3 shilling tax per pound of tea! And it wasn't even good tea!

Yea don't forget we are back to back world war champions. We got that going for us.....who wouldn't want to be on the WINNING (Trump voice) team.

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[kaiser715]

So, in the 2nd link I posted, there was a link to a facebook live video, from a guy that didn't even work there, but went to the business. In the video, he said to agents that “you need a f—— bullet proof vest,” and that if he had his “f—— gun,” he would “shoot both of you b——.”

Anyway, Sheriff Carter posted this on FB today:

2/6/2019 Christian Enrique Canales (27) of 4909 N. Pointe, Sanford NC was arrested for communicating threats to Lee County Sheriff Deputies and driving while license revoked; he was held under $5,000 secured bond.

These charges stem from a Facebook Live video which was posted by Canales on Tuesday morning.

Man who filmed Facebook Live video during ICE raid charged with threatening officers

Serves him right.

 

[RatLabGuy]

So, in the 2nd link I posted, there was a link to a facebook live video, from a guy that didn't even work there, but went to the business. In the video, he said to agents that “you need a f—— bullet proof vest,” and that if he had his “f—— gun,” he would “shoot both of you b——.”

Anyway, Sheriff Carter posted this on FB today:




Man who filmed Facebook Live video during ICE raid charged with threatening officers

Serves him right.

 

[ManglerYJ]

actually....

It was a huge problem until they basically locked the borders down. Probably the toughest country in the world to migrate to.

Funny. Isn't that what Trump is trying to do with a wall - not halt immigration altogether, but instead stem off ILLEGAL immigration?