Building question

cgm147

cgm147

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So I'm looking to build a shop and really don't know where to start as far as permits and such. Long story short land isn't in my name yet (dad is the owner) he called the survey guy he knows to cut me out an acre for said building. The man said it would be tough to get permits to build with no dwelling on said acre.
So that's where I'm at. what and where do I go from here. Sorry for my ignorance to this but I need help. Thanks in advance.
 
Build a pole building with permits. Once finished, close in, concrete floor, and enjoy your new shop.
 
We wouldn't permit that here. No accessory building without a primary structure.

Wouldn't permit a pole building either unless you can prove your a "bona fide farm".
 
oscar80 said:
If you do the apartment then you gotta deal with septic and water.
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there are worse things than having septic and water available at your shop!
 
oscar80 said:
Opens a can of worms for permits though
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The laws are what they are. Didn't get the impression the OP is trying to skirt around the county, just asking whats the right route.

Maybe it would be more helpful to know what cgm147 really wants out of this... jumping from just a shop to having a dwelling is a pretty major change.
 
RatLabGuy said:
The laws are what they are. Didn't get the impression the OP is trying to skirt around the county, just asking whats the right route.

Maybe it would be more helpful to know what cgm147 really wants out of this... jumping from just a shop to having a dwelling is a pretty major change.
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The original plan was to build a shop with an apartment for my dad to live in. I live on the other land that's not in my name if that makes sense. One acre would be mine the other 8 acres would still be in his name including the house presently there.
If he would just add the house into the deal the problem would be solved.. but at this time he isn't ready to do so.
 
Why don't you leave the 1 acre in his name get all the permits and build it while still in his name and then after that is said and done purchase said 1 acre that has your new shop on it
 
cgm147 said:
The original plan was to build a shop with an apartment for my dad to live in. I live on the other land that's not in my name if that makes sense. One acre would be mine the other 8 acres would still be in his name including the house presently there.
If he would just add the house into the deal the problem would be solved.. but at this time he isn't ready to do so.
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Has the land already been split?

Soudns to me like you need to first build your shop (Without an apartment... but hey maybe if the framing is conducive to finishing it off later...) as a pole building, with his current residence as the primary.

Then later cleave off the 1 acre as a separate lot...
 
RatLabGuy said:
Has the land already been split?

Soudns to me like you need to first build your shop (Without an apartment... but hey maybe if the framing is conducive to finishing it off later...) as a pole building, with his current residence as the primary.

Then later cleave off the 1 acre as a separate lot...
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As of right now the land is in three tracks. One is 3 acres that the house is on but as far as I know the yard where would be best suited for the big shop is not on the same track.
 
jyaks said:
Why don't you leave the 1 acre in his name get all the permits and build it while still in his name and then after that is said and done purchase said 1 acre that has your new shop on it
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Sounds like an easy route but the way it's split into 3 tracks the house isn't on the cut it needs to be. And the land is right of survivorship... so I already offered to buy the whole sha bang and was told no... but he isn't ready for some reason to sign it over. If that's even possible Idk the rules behind that.
 
cgm147 said:
As of right now the land is in three tracks. One is 3 acres that the house is on but as far as I know the yard where would be best suited for the big shop is not on the same track.
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It'll be a lot of extra paperwork, but if its 3 tracts all under the same owner, you should be able to get them joined into a single.
 
RatLabGuy said:
It'll be a lot of extra paperwork, but if its 3 tracts all under the same owner, you should be able to get them joined into a single.
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OK thanks that's an idea. It just really seems like a long road ahead. I was just expecting to be at least under roof by winter but that may not happen.
 
RatLabGuy said:
It'll be a lot of extra paperwork, but if its 3 tracts all under the same owner, you should be able to get them joined into a single.
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cgm147 said:
OK thanks that's an idea. It just really seems like a long road ahead. I was just expecting to be at least under roof by winter but that may not happen.
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Actually it is much easier to recombine lots than it is to subdivide them. It's generally just hiring a surveyor to create a recombination plat. I am unsure of city/town regulation, but counties are not able to prohibit re-combinations as long as the resultant lot meets or exceeds the subdivision ordinance (if there is one).

As to your other question, yeah, if there are living quarters (bedroom/bathroom, etc) we would treat it as an additional home. Some jurisdictions prohibit additional primary structures on lots though if you were to recombine the parcels, so look into that. You'd need septic and water, yes...but it seems like you're interested in the apartment anyways so I would look into just going that route. I believe that improvement permits issued by any environmental health department in NC are good for 5 years (I THINK...not 100% sure on that...I'd check with someone to verify).

Again, I'd check with your county/town. All codes are different for the most part.

McCracken said:
Question: What if you build something with no permits. What happens then?
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Then you tear it down and remove it...or get fined X amount per day (typically $50.00) until the non-permitted structure is removed. I have done this before (several times actually). That is just from the zoning side. Inspections is another matter. Our fine here is $100.00 PER PERMIT, plus you must purchase the permits you didn't get in the first place. Most places charge double the permit fee (although I've seen triple before).
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
Then you tear it down and remove it...or get fined X amount per day (typically $50.00) until the non-permitted structure is removed. I have done this before (several times actually).
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Sooo... you're the asshole everybody wants to avoid?
Good to know.;)
 
RatLabGuy said:
Sooo... you're the asshole everybody wants to avoid?
Good to know.;)
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Eh, most of our stuff is complaint based...so there's that. Unless it's something insane (like the 15,000 square foot building we found without permits) we just deal with it. Most of the time we work with people to the best that we can.
 
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