Callalantee Fees

your opinion on the Callalantee fees

  • The fees at Callalantee are just fine for driver/vehicle and passengers, don't change a thing

    Votes: 17 16.2%

  • The fees are too high for driver/vehicle and passenger, need to lower both

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • The fee should be a reasonable flat fee per vehicle, irrelevant of passenger #

    Votes: 47 44.8%

  • The driver fee is fine but a reasonable passenger fee, $3-$5, would be better

    Votes: 37 35.2%

  • I don't wheel there and don't care

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Total voters
    105
So if they could take in $150k it should be profitable and stay open. $50k for taxes, $50k for management, $50k for profit or whatever.

1R = 1 rig, driver & passenger = $26

1R x 5769 visits = $150k

They would need to average 110 1R a week to hit the $150k mark.

The business plan I wrote and provided to Mr Brown 2 years ago only provided approximately $25k a year income. In light of recent posts, this would only cover half of the tax value and leave nothing for improvements, pay or profit. At that time Mr Brown personally told me he didn't need the money and wasn't interested in developing the park in order to draw more business.

Let's say, for example, that they needed to gross $100k.

They would need 2000 visitors a year, or 40 a week, to spend an average of $50 each visit.

Just numbers to look at. I personally have no problem with the fee structure as it stands. I can also understand how a family of four would be affected a lot more than a solo rig and driver by the current fees.

FWIW, CTB rode Callalantee for years when it was a horse camp and no OHVs were allowed, under a reciprocity agreement in which the club got to ride in exchange for keeping the trails open and clear for the horses.

Also as a concession to our long term commitment to Callalantee, we received a discounted rate when the park became an OHV park and that agreement ended.

CTB is also responsible for most of the challenge areas that are now ridden at Callalantee. I personally have walked all of Welder, Armor All, Pull Cable, TOW and several other areas before they were passable.

I have no problem with either side of the fee structure argument presenting their point of view. I do think the subjective judgments and name calling should be kept out of it though!

Personally, I will continue to ride at Callalantee until that time when it is no longer open. When the fee gets to costing me $40-$50 a day I will probably curtail the number of times I go up in a year but I'll still be there :)
 
twistedone said:
WOW! What abunch of fukin pussies! If your bitch ass can't afford and extra 10-20$ stay the fuk home bitches. Or just go to fukn uwharrie . Stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us who can make it out there . It's their land , they can do whatever the fuk they want . All you people who bitch about the way they run their land are the ones who are going to male it such a hassle That they might close it. If your pussy hurts over the fees DONT GO !!
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We are having a discussion on the new pricing policy, not a fight about it. I don't think most people who have posted in this thread are calling up there bitching or complaining when they do go. I think that they are just voicing their opinion in this thread. That is the case with me anyway. Next time I go, I'll politely hand over my money just as I have done before as I eagerly prepare to ride the trails.

If a guy wants to bring his three kids with him for the day, it would be an extra $33 for a total of $48. I personally think that is a little much considering they would be just sitting in a vehicle all day. Maybe $11 per day for a grown adult passenger or kids over the age of 12-15 is reasonable, but I think kids under 12-15 should be $3-5 per day if they are just riding in a vehicle, and will not be driving.

I still plan to go as often as I can under the current pricing policy.
 
You people do realize this problem will take care of itself without all the bitching. If it's too expensive, people won't go, if it's not people will. It's so hard for me not to turn this into a political ideology debate.
Go take a basic economics class at the community college, it'll help lots of you understand.
 
saf-t scissors said:
How do you figure?
We're right back to you presenting what you're willing to pay as though it's some kind of consensus about what's "fair".
Again, judging by what THE OTHER PRIVATELY-OWNED PARKS charge, a per-vehicle rate would be $35-50/day.
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what I'm saying is that both fees are obviously more than what people want to pay. If they're OK with the driver fee, they still want the passenger fee changed. If it's a flat fee, it's because they want to come up with a happy medium. One way or the other they want the fee changed. fees is fees. at least it appears that way to me.

and I agree with BIGWOODY. consider it a first :lol:
 
This thread is for discussion not name calling. If you don't have anything intelligent to add, don't post.

The new management ARE NOT OHV people, by their own admission. We should take the opportunity to make them aware of the opinions in our community.

I know the NC4x4 community is only a segment of those who patron the park but the poll at the top should give a reasonable position of the community as a whole.

It is their property and they can certainly charge what they want. It is also a business and like any other business people will choose to give them their money or not. My hopes are simply to provide information for them to consider over the winter.

Thanks to everyone who voted.
 
NO...this thread is not for discussion it's about you still complaining about trail fees...there are 8 others that are for discussion..

DROP IT ALREADY. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T GO
 
UNBREAKABLE said:
NO...this thread is not for discussion it's about you still complaining about trail fees...there are 8 others that are for discussion..

DROP IT ALREADY. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T GO
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Why do you have to use the caps.....your scaring me!
 
Rox&Mud said:
This thread is for discussion not name calling. If you don't have anything intelligent to add, don't post.

The new management ARE NOT OHV people, by their own admission. We should take the opportunity to make them aware of the opinions in our community.

I know the NC4x4 community is only a segment of those who patron the park but the poll at the top should give a reasonable position of the community as a whole.

It is their property and they can certainly charge what they want. It is also a business and like any other business people will choose to give them their money or not. My hopes are simply to provide information for them to consider over the winter.

Thanks to everyone who voted.
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Your hopes have been heard...in multiple threads.

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I can't afford it...too expensive for my blood. I'm just gonna go out to eat and spend $45 instead..and then spend $50 on booze haha




















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Give me a call sometime!
 
Moved from "Do you let your car heat up" thread:

Didn't want to hijack...

StretchASU said:
Just think of all the gas, and therefore, money you would save if you didnt warm them up. You could afford to wheel at Mtn. City...:poop: wrong thread...
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Really?

Have you actually ever read AND comprehended what I've posted on the subject. From your post you have not. Go back and do your research and try again.

Rox&Mud said:
Only if my wife is going with me and we're taking the ZJ. The TJ and Isuzu warms quickly the truck never warms no mater how long it runs even after it's up to temp. How long I let the ZJ warm up depends on how soon we are ready to go.:)
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You apparently didn't even actually comprehend the above post.

My point has been made concerning Callalantee, I'm done with it are you?

Callalantee will survive, enjoy.
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